• baker
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    Why did I get a notification for this?
  • Athena
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    I'm lucky in finding constant background music almost unbearable.Jamal

    :clap: I am 100% in agreement with finding constant background music unbearable. That is the biggest reason for turning off my TV and selecting less music, or no music, in videos. I also turn off annoying voices.

    I explain the dumping down and growing stupidity differently. I chose the video because it brought up increasing stupidity, and I think that is the point people against AI are trying to make. While I don't have total agreement with the video, it is nice to know that research is being done, and there is evidence that, in general, we are becoming less thoughtful. While the technology for manipulating what we think has evolved dramatically in the last 50 years.
  • Athena
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    Why did I get a notification for this?baker

    I have no idea. Please PM the message so I might figure out what went wrong.
  • Leontiskos
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    Simply put it: The Turing test isn't at all a theorem about consciousness.ssu

    Perhaps, but then what is it about? Turing was playing with the idea that machines can think, but even that question was largely avoided in his paper. I think you find the same sort of confusion in Turing that you find in the world today, namely an unwillingness to think carefully about what 'thinking' or 'consciousness' means. Still, one of her points is very interesting, "On this illusion, we have created a technological empire..." We benefit a great deal by pretending that something which is not true is true (e.g. pretending that machines can think or are conscious).

    Notice that OP was published five months before ChatGPT went live.Wayfarer

    I don't think the advent of ChatGPT changes anything in her article.

    ChatGPT has the largest take-up of any software release in history, it and other LLM's are inevitable aspects of techno-culture. It's what you use them for, and how, that matters.Wayfarer

    I think this is more a mantra than an argument. For some reason, many people don't want to consider the fact that we have a choice when it comes to technology. I think it relates to libertarianism and a culture enamored with technology.

    (Incidentally, I think the "inevitability" was shown to be rather brittle when Michael Burry placed a short against the AI industry and the tech giants exploded with fear and anger.)
  • Wayfarer
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    I don't think the advent of ChatGPT changes anything in her article.Leontiskos

    Yes, true, that. I went back and looked again. What i siezed on first time around was her mention of the Blake LeMoine case which was discussed here at length. I agree with her conclusion:

    "For now, if we want to talk to another consciousness, the only companion we can be certain fits the bill is ourselves."

    Furthermore, I know a priori that LLMs would affirm that.
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