To be more clear, I am not pro rich as a social class, if you thought that, then that would be wrong. I am pro the possibility of getting rich. I think people who do outstanding work that impacts a lot of other people positively should get rich. — Agustino
I do want to be rich, I think I'd be a good administrator of the money to tell you the truth. But that doesn't mean I'm pro-rich as a social class. I'm pro-rich in the sense that people should have the opportunity to be rich and be economically powerful if they earn it fairly.Of course you are pro-rich. It would be absurd for you to want to become rich if you were not pro-rich. — Bitter Crank
Well, currently my work is in web development / marketing services (for the web). I'm not a rich guy. I don't have the scale necessary to impact a lot of people positively, and it's quite competitive. I will probably switch to something different over time, that can hopefully scale up faster and reach more people. Probably still something online, but I wouldn't exclude going back to something civil engineery :PTell us, what is the outstanding work you do that benefits a lot of other people so positively that you should be entitled to riches? — Bitter Crank
It depends what you mean by capitalist. Does someone like me count as a capitalist? I think entrepreneurship is vital for the economy, perhaps the most important factor. I don't think you can have a healthy economy without entrepreneurs and inventors. I don't think these people are the bourgeoisie. Nor are they the proletariat for that matter. They're a different class altogether. The bourgeoisie is the middle-upper class - those who enjoy high social status. There's a lot of them. The proletariat are common working people - typically don't enjoy high social status. Entrepreneurs are typically inventors and people who want to do something and build something. They also generally have low social status, at least until they're successful, if they are.As Uncle Karl observed many years ago, The state is a committee for organizing the affairs of the bourgeoisie--meaning capitalists. — Bitter Crank
Not totally unrelated to morality. But for example, gluttony is a vice/sin, and yet we don't outlaw gluttony. So the fact it is a vice/sin isn't sufficient to make something worthy of being outlawed. Why not? Because without freedom, there cannot be any virtue in the first place.And these other conditions are unrelated to morality? — praxis
LOL - I was being quite serious. You yourself mentioned how corrupt the state is - and that a lot of money is made in making business with the state.Go Reds - Smash State. — Bitter Crank
When the French peasant paints the devil, he paints him in the guise of a tax collector
The state is the problem BC, not the solution. — Agustino
I was being quite serious. — Agustino
Does this decentralized system involve any bureaucratic state apparatus which would dictate who produces what and in what quantities? I think that would be a big problem actually, not ideal. My economics is more distributist. Private property is extremely important, and not only it shouldn't be abolished, but the aim of our economy should make private property more accessible to everyone, and prevent the "state" or other entites from blocking people from having access to economic liberty - which is private property.A decentralized system of coordinated production and distribution under the management of workers managing their production facility. Citizens, in their roles of consumers and producers would, together, establish markets. — Bitter Crank
Under such a system, most people would be able to earn a living without having to rely on the use of the property of others to do so. Examples of people earning a living in this way would be farmers who own their own land and related machinery, plumbers who own their own tools, software developers who own their own computer,[37] etc. The "cooperative" approach advances beyond this perspective to recognise that such property and equipment may be "co-owned" by local communities larger than a family, e.g., partners in a business.
What makes you call most entrepreneurs "petite boureoisie"? And why do you identify the bourgeoisie with the super rich? I think middle-upper class lawyers for example are more bourgeois than Steve Jobs was for example.Most entrepreneurs are "petite bourgeoisie" -- small fry in the business world -- making a try for their "original accumulation". Shop keepers, web developers, etc. — Bitter Crank
Diderot!Who said they looked forward to the last monarch being strangled with the intestines of the last priest? — Bitter Crank
Probably against [Trump casinos], because I don't think gambling is a good thing. But we shouldn't legislate my morality. — Agustino
Does this decentralized system involve any bureaucratic state apparatus — Agustino
Private property is extremely important — Agustino
What makes you call most entrepreneurs "petite boureoisie"? And why do you identify the bourgeoisie with the super rich? I think middle-upper class lawyers for example are more bourgeois than Steve Jobs was for example. — Agustino
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