• frank
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    The following passage is from Steiner's Martin Heidegger

    Being and Time is written during the early 1920s. It comes, as I have said, of the apocalypse of 1918 and of the Expressionist climate. It fully predates National Socialism. No Nazi hoodlum, to my knowledge, ever read or would have been capable of reading it. The crux, made more complex by the problem of Deconstruction and of such post-Heideggerians as De Man, is this: are there in Heidegger’s incomplete ontological summa categories, advocacies of inhumanism, eradications of the human person, which, in some sense, prepare for the subsequent program of Nazism? Is Heidegger’s play with and on Nothingness (a play intimately analogous with negative theology) a nihilism in extremis rather than, as it professes to be, an “overcoming of nihilism”? Assuredly, Sein und Zeit and Heidegger’s theory of a language that speaks man rather than being spoken by him is utterly seminal in the modern anti-humanistic movement. There is little in Deconstruction or in Foucault’s “abolition of man,” with its background in Dada and Artaud, which is not voiced in Heidegger’s a-humanism — where the privativum of the prefix does seem to me more accurate and just than would be that of in-humanism. Secondly, there is the famous urgency of death, of the will to and motion toward death in Heidegger’s analysis of felt being, of human individuation. Rooted in Pascal and in Kierkegaard, this death-insistence does, by virtue of the fact that it attempts to free itself from theological contexts, carry a heavy charge of negation. Can we say that this weight inflects Heidegger’s and his reader’s attitudes toward the macabre obsessions of National Socialism? I see no ready answer to either of these questions. Post hoc is not propter hoc. Books of the difficulty and singularity of Sein und Zeit do not, in any immediate or programmatic way, exercise their effect upon politics and society. It may indeed be the case that Heidegger’s tonality, that Heidegger’s charismatic regency of certain circles of intellect and of sensibility in the Germany of the late 1920s and early 1930s did contribute to the ambience of fatality and of dramatization in which Nazism flourished. Intuitively, such a conjunction seems plausible. But it could only be demonstrated if specific texts in Heidegger’s magnum could be shown to have generated dependent motions of argument and of action in Hitler’s rise to power. No such demonstration has, despite attempts by such critics of Heidegger as Adorno and Habermas, carried conviction. It could well be that we stand too near the facts. Darkness can blind as sharply as light; and the two may take centuries to untangle (consider the debates which persist over the politics and the impact on politics of Machiavelli or of Rousseau. — Steiner

    Steiner believes that the real Heidegger is not accessible from any of his writings. He apparently had some sort of charismatic presence as a lecturer, and if you never heard him, you're clueless.

    Being and Time is rather a failed (according to Steiner) attempt to arrive at some sort of new and irrational comprehension of Being. All the neologisms and piles of words are meant to clear the rational clutter that blinds us to the being of Being. In this, it's kin to Surrealism, which seeks to bypass the intellect and express a higher truth.

    And both Surrealism and Heidegger are a kind of stress response to the end of WW1. Steiner says this period in German history is a catastrophic collision with nihilism. Where the period after WW2 was a deafening silence, the time between the wars was a desperate attempt to rise above a dark godless defeat, manifesting as apocalypticism.

    The question is: did this longing to ditch rationality turn into in-humanism that set the stage for the Holocaust?
  • 180 Proof
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    The question is: did this longing to ditch rationality turn into in-humanism that set the stage for the Holocaust?frank
    In the wake of the catastrophic defeat of Kaiser's Germany, Heidegger's amoral (Levinas, Adorno) bifurcating of beings into "authentic" and "inauthentic" (Dasein and Das Man ... us and them) seems to have set up the latter as readymade scapegoats for redeeming (or 'purifying') the former. Imho, 'ir-rationality' did not cause mass murder so much as its willing stupification (Arendt) ironically made it much easier for "The They" to not question / not resist Das Führerprinzip (i.e. banality of evil).

    Btw, decades ago I'd found George Steiner's Martin Heidegger to be an excellent synopsis – I wonder how well Steiner's interpretation (or my own rationalist, anti-obscurant bias) has aged in light of more recent scholarship on the old Rektorführer.
  • frank
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    Btw, decades ago I'd found George Steiner's Martin Heidegger to be an excellent synopsis – I wonder how well Steiner's interpretation (or my own rationalist, anti-obscurant bias) has aged in light of more recent scholarship on the old Rektorführer.180 Proof

    Don't know. I've mainly been trying to figure out how Being and Time connects to Heidegger's fascism. I read Wolin's Heidegger in Ruins (2023), and it left me unconvinced that there's any obvious relationship. Wolin just sort of suggests that anyone who was that much of a Nazi must have produced radioactive philosophy.

    Steiner's work is the first one I've come across that suggests that Being and Time isn't actually supposed to make sense. It's just supposed to be pointing toward some new comprehension (which I think is alluded to in the speech you linked, thanks for that.)
  • Tom Storm
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    I've mainly been trying to figure out how Being and Time connects to Heidegger's fascism.frank

    Are you open to the possibility that it may have no connection and is more concerned with his attempt to retrieve the way Being was originally encountered before it was conceptually distorted by centuries of bad metaphysics? I can make no sense out of the work, so I'll rely on those who have studied it to let me know. :wink:
  • J
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    The question is: did this longing to ditch rationality turn into in-humanism that set the stage for the Holocaust?frank

    Well, no, I don't see the argument for it. But anyone attending the Lectures on Metaphysics, given in 1935, would have heard that "in speaking of greatness we are referring primarily to the works and destinies of nations" (11); and "The works that are being peddled about nowadays as the philosophy of National Socialism but have nothing whatever to do with the inner truth and greatness of this movement (namely the encounter between global technology and modern man) -- have all been written by men fishing in the troubled water of 'values' and 'totalities'" (199).

    This sort of thing seems like it would have provided much more aid and comfort to Nazis than anything in Being and Time. The second quote in particular looks to be in line with your question about ditching rationality. I don't know nearly enough about Germany in 1935 to be able to guess how such talk of national greatness would have been received at a university. Nor is it clear to me that Heidegger's scorn for values, in this context, equates to an irrational endorsement of in-humanism. Yet Heidegger is clearly buying in to 1) the concept of national greatness, and 2) the belief that National Socialism offers "inner truth and greatness." If not irrational, then surely nuts.
  • Paine
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    That document is interesting in how it ties a revival of a "Greek awakening" to his moment. The references to the Republic seem to be a direct appeal to the unified participation in the proposed Ideal city.

    There is a desire for immersion at play here.

    Being was originally encountered before it was conceptually distorted by centuries of bad metaphysics?Tom Storm

    Heidegger did argue that thesis in many places. It may not be a marker for a particular set of beliefs but does set up a Golden Age logic you have questioned in other places.


    Your focus does fit with the politically conservative "cultural war" Heidegger fought earlier as a dutiful Catholic opposing modern expressions of individual liberty. There is a strange twist to his attempt to re-direct the Nazis to his paradigm because many Catholics were put down during that time.

    To have been a crucifix on the wall during those confessions....
  • Ciceronianus
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    I doubt this the work of this despicable, loathsome excuse for a human being had anything signicant to do with the creation of Nazism. Rather, he supported it as best he could because it was consistent with his twisted romanticism and mysticism, and in the hope he would be considered its philosopher.

    Is this too over the top?
  • Tom Storm
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    Is it correct to say that, for Heidegger, an authentic life carries no inherent moral content? Does his philosophy largely avoid the concept of the good life? Are right and wrong understood as indirect indicators of taking Being seriously?
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