• Banno
    30.2k
    We define a function:



    • Well-defined: For every , we have , so . Hence , and the function is well-defined.
    • Injective: Suppose . Then
      .
      Hence is injective.
    • Surjective: Let . Define . Then
      .
      Hence is surjective.

    Conclusion: The function is a bijection between and .
  • Magnus Anderson
    378
    It is defined as a bijection. The same way square-circles are defined as shapes that are both circles and squares. That does not mean they are logical possibilities, i.e. free from internal contradictions.

    And there's a subtle difference between "You can pick any number from N and map it onto a unique number from N0" and "You can pick every number from N and map it onto a unique number from N0".
  • LuckyR
    703
    You wouldn't expect completion from a thread titled "Infinity" would you?

    Not really, but ignoring the infinite level of irrelevance of the topic is a pretty important omission.
  • Banno
    30.2k
    It is defined as a bijection.Magnus Anderson

    ?

    Well, no. It is defined as f(n)=nāˆ’1 and then shown to be a bijection. That definition does not mention bijectivity at all. At this stage, the function could turn out to be injective, surjective, neither, or both. Nothing is being smuggled in.

    While a square-circle is defined using incompatible properties, there is no contradiction in .
  • Magnus Anderson
    378
    N0?Banno

    Not N0 but f(n) = n - 1. That function is a bijection by definition.

    It is defined as f(n)=nāˆ’1 and then shown to be a bijection. That definition does not mention bijectivity at all. At this stage, the function could turn out to be injective, surjective, neither, or both. Nothing is being smuggled in.Banno

    Yes. It is not explicitly stated in the definition. However, the definition implies it. And because it implies it, it is a bijection by definition.

    It's like defining the symbol "S" as "a closed figure with three straight sides". It does not explicitly state that it has 3 angles but it does imply it. So it is correct to say that S has 3 angles by definition.

    "By definition" does not mean "explicitly stated by the definition". It means "fixed by the definition ( either explicitly or implicitly )".

    In mathematics, functions are defined as sets of input-output pairs. f( n ) = n - 1, in this view, is a set of input-output pairs where every element from N is paired with exactly one element from N0 and vice versa. That makes it a bijection by definition. But that does not mean that the bijection between N and N0 exists, i.e. that it is a logical possibility. It merely means that's what the symbol can represent. It's similar to how simply saying that the term "square-circle" means "a shape that is both a square and a circle" does not mean that square-circles exist.

    The seemingly devastating consequences of accepting that no bijection exists between N and N0 is that f( n ) = n - 1 does not exist either, i.e. that it is an oxymoron. The good news is that that's merely a consequence of an incorrect definition of functions. Functions aren't sets of input-output pairs. They are sets of rules.
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