Peter Gray
Sam26
Apologies in advance if this has already been discussed, but what do people think about the phrase "My truth"? (Or its variants, "your truth" and "his/her truth"). I don't remember hearing it until about five years ago, but it seems to be gaining increasing traction in both the USA and the UK. Here's an example of it:
It seems to be used in place of "my perception" or "my recollection" which would be more correct usages. However, it implies that the speaker is in possession of the absolute truth, and that therefore, anyone else's "truth" is false, which is both a thought-stopper and conversation-stopper. — Peter Gray
Joshs
If everyone has "their truth," then we have no truth at all. We're left with competing narratives where facts become irrelevant, and power becomes the only arbiter of whose "truth" prevails. It makes actual investigation, evidence, and reasoned debate impossible. You see this a lot, especially from the radical left, but it's everywhere. — Sam26
Patterner
I think it does the opposite. "THE truth" would be a claim of having the absolute truth. "My truth" is what works for me. "Your truth" is what works for you.However, it implies that the speaker is in possession of the absolute truth, and that therefore, anyone else's "truth" is false, which is both a thought-stopper and conversation-stopper. — Peter Gray
Outlander
I think it does the opposite. "THE truth" would be a claim of having the absolute truth. "My truth" is what works for me. "Your truth" is what works for you. — Patterner
Sam26
If everyone has "their truth," then we have no truth at all. We're left with competing narratives where facts become irrelevant, and power becomes the only arbiter of whose "truth" prevails. It makes actual investigation, evidence, and reasoned debate impossible. You see this a lot, especially from the radical left, but it's everywhere.
— Sam26
Wouldnt Wittgenstein treat the phrase ‘my truth’ as staking out a position within a language game? Rather than treating “truth” as a concept with a fixed essence and then indicting “my truth” as a conceptual corruption that smuggles subjectivity into a domain where it doesnt belong, wouldn't he investigate how the phrase “my truth” is actually being used, in what situations it appears, what work it does, and how it functions within particular language-games?
The danger for Wittgenstein of the use of ‘my truth’ is not that “facts become irrelevant,” but that we may lose clarity about what kind of claim is being made and therefore about what sort of response is called for. By contrast, you seem to assume that the philosophical task is to police language against misuse by appeal to hidden semantic rules about what words really mean. — Joshs
AmadeusD
magritte
However, it implies that the speaker is in possession of the absolute truth, and that therefore, anyone else's "truth" is false, which is both a thought-stopper and conversation-stopper. — Peter Gray
Tom Storm
Apologies in advance if this has already been discussed, but what do people think about the phrase "My truth"? (Or its variants, "your truth" and "his/her truth"). I don't remember hearing it until about five years ago, — Peter Gray
Questioner
Banno
Questioner
Can someone be mistaken in your view? Even wrong? — Banno
AmadeusD
Their subjective truth is only about themselves. — Questioner
those who object to anyone living by their own truth do so because they want those people to live by the objector’s own subjective truth — Questioner
Ciceronianus
Questioner
why does anyone else have to care, acknowledge or acquiesce to it? — AmadeusD
Because there is no such thing as "my truth". There are your opinions and feelings. — AmadeusD
Questioner
"My truth" is usually an expression of the speaker's self-regard when making a statement of little importance. — Ciceronianus
AmadeusD
Uh no, just let them live, or just ignore them. — Questioner
Certainly do not make arbitrary rules that they are no longer allowed to serve in the US military. — Questioner
I have no hesitancy in saying they are truths. — Questioner
And if someone begins their litany by saying "I am a transgender..."
That is their truth. And it has absolutely nothing to do with you. — Questioner
Questioner
AmadeusD
I suggest as soon as you come up against an objection you move back into "well, so what.. I believe what I believe" — AmadeusD
He said it feels... — Questioner
has absolutely nothing to do with truth. — AmadeusD
Joshs
↪Questioner Then you reject the limitations imposed by our shared reality?
Can someone be mistaken in your view? Even wrong? — Banno
Philosophim
Apologies in advance if this has already been discussed, but what do people think about the phrase "My truth"? — Peter Gray
LuckyR
I think it does the opposite. "THE truth" would be a claim of having the absolute truth. "My truth" is what works for me. "Your truth" is what works for you.
baker
You go tell that to your boss. Or your arresting officer. Or any such person who is in any way relevant at any point in your life.Because there is no such thing as "my truth". There are your opinions and feelings. — AmadeusD
When did it not?Does waving an American flag now mean surrendering your humanity? — Questioner
baker
For some people (many, probably), the concept of "interpretation" is unintelligible, unacceptable, a sign of inferiority, or a sign of evil intent.I agree that it implies the opposite of the OP's interpretation. In fact while it happens to use the label "truth", it really means "my interpretation", since it's not describing objective facts, rather how objective facts appear to them subjectively, given their personal experiences. And we're all allowed to have our subjective interpretation/opinion. — LuckyR
baker
Then how about "figuring out on your own terms" what is a mistake and what is fitting in regard to being gay, for example?Our shared reality isnt going to help you figure out why your perspective doesnt jibe precisely with those whose reality you share. Group consensus can take us a long way, but on some things what is a mistake and what is fitting we have to figure out on our own terms. — Joshs
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