It is your main goal here.

I am very curious if it's possible to prove something is man-made, if you've never seen it before. It sounds easy, but it's actually pretty hard.

So if we could backward construct the object into a blueprint and verbal model, we might have an insight into the creator of it? — MikeL

I would prefer to use the word "origin" rather than "creator", because creations can be natural or artificial (to create is simply to produce something new). Spiders create webs, painters create art.

Analysis may, or may not, determine the producer (i.e., cause) of an object. So, I don't see how the natural/man-made distinction provides any insights with regard to God.

What about man-made, in the case of the rubix cube? How does the backward logic bare out for you?

That is a straw man. You can actually witness humans creating thing, it is not hard to prove, instead you want it to be hard to prove.

Well, prove it to me.

Don't forget the cubes washed up on the shore.

That is a trap. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Are you sure about that? I saw a cube shaped rock once. Sharp edges and all Fault-lines and erosion. And just for the record, its not me that's confused (thanks for the link anyway), it's the Egyptian boy and his dad (and they don't have the internet).

No trap Jeremiah, you just can't answer it. There's a difference.

I actually did already address your question, you just ignored it, and the "prove it to me" is always a trap, since we are talking about your personal subjective standards which you can shift at any time.

Do you have intersubjectively verifiable hard evidence of god or not?

You wouldn't think so, but there was this weird storm that blew up out of nowhere and a cargo ship carrying Rubix cubes headed straight into it. The father was good friends with Aristotle though and they often talked of QM but called it the dance of the etherial spirits.

intersubjectively verifiable hard evidence of god or not? — Jeremiah

Well, I'm talking to you aint I? :)

And you haven't answered my question, but if it's too hard for you I understand. It's too hard for me too.

Do you have intersubjectively verifiable hard evidence of god or not?

Why are you asking me about God when I'm asking you about rubix cubes Jeremiah. It sounds to me like maybe you want to be a believer and just need a bit of evidence to go your way. Am I right?

Get out of here! So I guess they solved the problem afterall. You should ask them to get Aristotle on Philosophy Forum.

The cube is a straw man and a distraction to your true aim. Why don't you answer the question, MkieL? Is it too hard for you? Are you too stupid to understand it?

Do you have intersubjectively verifiable hard evidence of god or not?

Again with the big words Jeremiah. You should learn to articulate a little better. My OP is about Rubix cubes. I want to know how we can go about verifying something is man made. If we can do it, then we might have a method for proving the existence of your God. :)

What are you talking about?

Still avoiding my question I see. I knew you had nothing but stupid games.

Thanks for coming Jeremiah. Always a pleasure.

This is not philosophy.

Any time I can jump in and crap all over a worthless thread, I am happy to help.

We know the cubes are man-made. — Πετροκότσυφας

Jokes aside, you may have answered it. Regular geometry.

Simple regular repeated geometry