Rich, would you describe your idea of time as duration as analogous to a bubble passing through the time landscape whose path is unchartered and whose wake dissipates with distance? — MikeL
Of course everything is deterministic. But we can never prove it — Jake Tarragon
Is the path we walk fated? Do we have choice? Is the past written or is it just as unclear as the future? — MikeL
Also, we know that we're not in control of all events that occur or can occur. Isn't this fate? — TheMadFool
Determinism is literally a religion entirely based upon faith, — Rich
Once you decided the universe is causal, then it follows that it is deterministic. — szardosszemagad
The universe could , in principle, be a mixture of causal and non-causal. Proponents of the Copenhagen interpretation demonstrate quite a string belief in that don't they? — Jake Tarragon
Determinism is simply the religion of atheists and I firmly believe everyone needs some faith in their lives. — Rich
ESPECIALLY not in principle. — szardosszemagad
Determinism is not a religion. It is not, because it does not derive from some supernatural authorit — szardosszemagad
Why can't one person in time be walking a novel path while another person at the end of time sees the path that he will make through his novel choices? — MikeL
A philosopher has to b find real patterns in life, not just make stuff up — Rich
Causal has nothing to do with fate or determinism. — Rich
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