Can you formulate the inconsistency between relativity and quantum physics? — litewave
I mean that if you abandon the law of non-contradiction then you indeed can't have any meaningful conversation because there is no difference between what you say and the negation of what you say. — litewave
In physics, a unified field theory (UFT) is a type of field theory that allows all that is usually thought of as fundamental forces and elementary particles to be written in terms of a single field.
There is currently no accepted unified field theory, and thus it remains an open line of research. — fishfry
In other words it is perfectly sensible to have rational discussions of the subject of how to handle logical inconsistency. — fishfry
Only to the extent to which you stick to logical consistency and manage to prevent the inconsistent stuff from spreading via the principle of explosion to other parts of your system. Which is what I believe paraconsistent logic tries to do. — litewave
So you agree with my point that we can (under certain circumstances) speak rationally about inconsistency. Which falsifies your claim that there can be no rational discussion if some aspect of the universe is inconsistent. — fishfry
An inconsistent aspect of the universe is nonsense. — litewave
We can only speak rationally if we don't insist that such an aspect of the universe exists — litewave
And if we abandon the law of non-contradiction completely, we cannot speak rationally about anything. — litewave
Well, if a ball that is not a ball makes sense to you, I have nothing else to say. — litewave
Again you are claiming that a single inconsistent aspect of the universe [an entirely metaphysical notion] implies denial of the law of identity. — fishfry
Identity of a thing is determined by its properties. — litewave
Set it out, man. — Banno
I had a tooth pulled last week. It was easier than this. Quicker, too. — Banno
It's non-locality, isn't it. Relativity implies that nothing can travel faster than light; QM says it can. — Banno
Or, alternately, it is not possible for us to construct a coherent account of reality. — Banno
Contradictions occur between statements. a contradiction is an indication that one of the statements is wrong. — Banno
There are two different things. One is the laws of physics, which are historically contingent works of man. Aristotle, Newton, Einstein, etc. The collected body of physics papers. The stories we tell the freshmen, the stories we tell the grad students, the stories physicists tell each other. — fishfry
But if such a state of affairs obtained in reality then reality would be absurd too. But I can't imagine that reality would be absurd... — litewave
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