On a more practical note, will atheist organisations now be eligible for the same tax-free status as churches? — Banno
Only after I came to an understanding that God exists, I started to look into atheistic arguments more closely. — Henri
What leads us to the conclusion that the arguments for your new beliefs or understanding have themselves been "looked into more closely"? — Uneducated Pleb
The deeper you get into understanding God through God's revelation and creation, the more you understand that everything is exactly as it should be, at this point in time. — Henri
Given the premise of there being God, He must, by His divine nature, be evident in everything that happens. — Banno
Emotional outburst to the OP is in line with being "quite unreasonable in interpreting what nature provides as clues for or against God."
Reversing the argument and saying that "if atheists are merely firing blanks, then people who understand that God exists must be playing with an unloaded toy" is true, actually, but it's true only on surface level.
The deeper you get into understanding God through God's revelation and creation, the more you understand that everything is exactly as it should be, at this point in time. Including that one cannot deduce that God exists by looking at people who claim to believe that God exists. — Henri
Given the perfection of the world is such that God is, for you, undeniable, denying God must call for an extraordinary irrationality. — Banno
My atheism is me saying that arguments purporting to reveal God's existence or nature have always been based on unreasonable evidence. — VagabondSpectre
World is perfect in terms of its purpose, not in terms of some abstract perfection. — Henri
Indeed, what's a few pointless, painful deaths in the big picture? — Banno
Of course, we could flip your argument around, Reductio - style. Given that God exists, atheism is incredible; yet atheists exist; therefore god is not credible... — Banno
Yes, but I would say that any atheism, hard or soft, is probably not reasonable. One can be agnostic but not an atheist. — Henri
Being a soft atheist is the rationally consistent result of being an agnostic. — VagabondSpectre
How do you understand that God exists? — VagabondSpectre
God reveals His existence in myriad of different ways. — Henri
There is really no deep thought, examination, inspection of our reality behind it. — Henri
We are but humble thorns drifting on winds of fate. Pricks of the divine thralled to prod and poke the most devout as a test of piety. In truth we are very close to the arch-angels of old; lacking free will of our own we act as the natural destructive tools of our lord unto the righteous Jobs among us. — VagabondSpectre
I do think that pain here and now is more pressing than the perfection of God's plan. — Banno
There are good people and other animals suffering... Other than civilized societies, what — anywhere — cares about me/you/us? — jorndoe
Get involved in philosophical discussions about knowledge, truth, language, consciousness, science, politics, religion, logic and mathematics, art, history, and lots more. No ads, no clutter, and very little agreement — just fascinating conversations.