Oh? You made a list of the reasons why I've decided to work as self-employed? X-) That's kind of you.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_aggression
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_undermining
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abusive_supervision
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_deviance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavellianism_in_the_workplace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizational_retaliatory_behavior
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_harassment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_bullying — schopenhauer1
I don't see how something being communist (or anarcho-communist) would prevent institutional harms such as the ones described. — schopenhauer1
The problem most people have is their expectations of what they "deserve" and what they think they should be able to control/influence. Expectation is the root of all suffering. Drop it and see what happens. — Aurora
Clothing and how it is warn, time and how it is used, work style and how it is governed, toilet breaks, regular breaks, lunch breaks--all rigidly set. What can be said at work is often monitored closely. Free speech does not apply to the workplace. — Bitter Crank
Per Agustino and like minds, one can work for one's self. That presupposes that one has skills, interests, and temperament that are conducive to self-employment. It isn't a moral or intellectual failing to either lack these traits or just not wish to work for one's self. — Bitter Crank
If one loathes detail work, highly structured work environments, close supervision, close proximity of too many other people, limited mobility (stay at your desk), etc., they won't do well in that kind of job. For those people, a loosely structured job, minimal supervision, freedom of movement, executive agency, opportunity for creative effort, free expression, a major challenge, etc. will yield very good results. Some people prefer detail work, predictability, regularity, and all that. In that kind of job they really do well.
There simply isn't much variety in work environments for people to self-sort. The exceptions to the rules are too few and far between. — Bitter Crank
Besides the formal constraints of work, there are the informal elements--all the craziness of individuals that are brought into the workplace and cultured in an environment where the worst traits rise to the top. — Bitter Crank
Many times it is the worst personalities that get these managerial positions. Why do you think that is? — schopenhauer1
Some people overmanage and that can be to someone who is a self-starter, autotelic, etc. The trick is to learn to appreciate the drive of the person who overmanages. It is easy to appreciate when juxtaposed with the attitude of a manager/supervisor who does not care. Nothing is more deflating than working under the authority of someone who is happy with mediocrity or failure, only cares about doing enough to keep his/her job, and/or favors personal relationships over work performance. I have never heard of poor morale under a manager supervisor who cares or cares too much. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
I think that often the reason why a person in an organization is hated is because he/she does not practice favoritism, holds everybody accountable, does not tolerate nonsense, etc. I think that people confuse that personal managerial style with an oppressive hierarchy in an oppressive organization. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
I would say that the stress is not inherent in the structure of the organization but is the result of workers' goals, intentions, attitudes etc. clashing with the organization's goals, intentions, attitudes etc. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
The latter may be the biggest reason why companies do not hesitate to replace humans with artificial intelligence. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
Can work even said to be rewarding if taken place in harmful environments of hierarchies? — schopenhauer1
It is when it is abusive power types that care more about delegation and power than development and growth. — schopenhauer1
I don't see why that person would be hated. It is the managers that cause division, favoritism, keeps only the people that work harder accountable and allow others to slide by, and not just tolerates the nonsense but causes it by talking about other staff, etc. That's a Trump-like managerial environment. — schopenhauer1
Yeah, but much of that clashing is bound to happen when you have fact that jobs without very limiting features (as Bitter Crank has described) are scarce. It says something about the human condition that we cannot think of better things to do than some of the more soul less jobs out there. People are so programmed to have tasks to accomplish, that they will take inanity over boredom. Part of the reason to not throw more people into the world is the inanity of much of the economic sphere. People are forced into a high likelihood of these types of jobs. You can turn it around and blame the worker's attitude, but how do you know that isn't just a "meme" that keeps people turning on each other than the structures itself? In other words, the tables can always be turned on blame. — schopenhauer1
I hope so. I hope there is a better way than the antiquated inanity of the last 100 years give or take of the modern workplace. — schopenhauer1
"It's not the consumer's job to know what they want". — WISDOMfromPO-MO
It feels like the only thing they know how to do is be consumers, to be honest. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
All of the research that I read about says that that consumption doesn't make us happier. It does make our lives extremely stressful, I think it is safe to say. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
Having expectations of other people is kind of like playing the slot machines in Las Vegas. You can always hope, but you can never be sure which numbers will come up — Aurora
My guess is that watching TV on a really nice big screen is a pleasure. If they can buy that pleasure on sale on Black Friday, well... that doesn't mean they are consumer zombies.
Most people (living lives of quiet desperation as we do) don't have a whole lot of choices in our lives. Getting the big TV or not might be one of the few choices we get to make. Most of our choices are already made. Will I get up to go to work? If I want an income, I will get up. I don't like my job but I will put up with it because we need the money. I'd like a really nice car and a nice home but I don't have enough money for those things. And so on and on. — Bitter Crank
They might attend church regularly, but they have very little of what I would call a spiritual life. All they know is Monday Night Football, "The Big Bang Theory", trips to Hawaii and other made-for-the-consumer tourism, etc. It feels like the only thing they know how to do is be consumers, to be honest. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
During those times when capitalism does not have a choke hold on you--such as when you are not on the job--discover things that have not been commodified and watered down for mass production and consumption, such as nature; work on projects of your own imagination while you have a break from working on market-researched, McDonaldized, uninspiring projects; learn to appreciate things that capitalism has little or no use for, such as the art of homemaking; etc. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
Ronald Wright points out in A Short History of Progress that hunter-gatherer societies were egalitarian and that civilization is hierarchical. He calls civilization "A fool's paradise". — WISDOMfromPO-MO
No amount of research, organization, rearranging, or planning, is going to solve any of the problems you mentioned. These problems cannot be solved on that level of thinking. — Aurora
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