How did you get to the conclusion that the rise of Trump lead to the Left to die? — Saphsin
to the extent that capital still needs labour at all — unenlightened
To understand Trump supporters it is only necessary to consider what it is to be envious, jealous and xenophobic. — Ciceronianus the White
No, it doesn't. I wasn't in fact responding to the OP's question, which was ably answered by others on this thread. I was responding to your post, in which you demonstrated that, like so many other Republicans, you put party before country, despite all of the declarations of being an unapologetic "flag-waving American," or whatever your motto is. (The old joke is that Democrats fall in love, and Republicans fall in line, and the Grand Old Party hasn't disappointed this time around, either, which is to say that they remain a disappointment.)The question was why people vote for Trump. You think those reasons are stupid, but that doesn't address the question. — Hanover
I'm a Trump supporter, so let me tell you why I support him. Hillary's a liar. The left's general plan is to give stuff away. We have no consistent immigration enforcement, yet we have very clear laws setting out what our immigration policy is supposed to be. Wanting to remain a sovereign nation is not equivalent to being xenophobic. No one is as sensitive in their daily lives as the media demands everybody be. And the biggest reason of all: there are no other Republican choices. I was a Kasich supporter, but he's not around anymore.
You guys sitting around trying to figure out why anyone would support Trump is like me sitting around trying to figure out why anyone would support Sanders. It's obvious. You guys are just wrong about everything you believe in. — Hanover
but to actually support Trump should leave you feeling dirty. — Sapientia
The American system is a rigid two party system, and with the internal Senate rules requiring a 60% supermajority to bring anything to a vote, it will be impossible for anything much to pass. Add into the mix that the House will be Republican and the Senate likely Democrat, nothing will ever pass. That means that whether it's Trump or Clinton, it will be 4 years of gridlock, which is the way the system was set up. It intentionally protects the status quo, especially in times of great disagreement. — Hanover
The big issue is who will be placed on the Supreme Court. The judiciary, an entire branch of government, hangs in the balance, with the current split being a 4-4 conservative/liberal. So, for that reason, I'll vote for Trump so that the courts will remain conservative. The appointments made by the next President could affect the country for decades. — Hanover
It's misleading to say that Senate rules require a 60% supermajority to vote on a bill. It only requires such a supermajority if the opposition party opts for a filibuster. The fact that this maneuver seems to have become increasingly common in recent years doesn't mean that it's a de rigeur fact of the Senate.The American system is a rigid two party system, and with the internal Senate rules requiring a 60% supermajority to bring anything to a vote, it will be impossible for anything much to pass. — Hanover
Yes, because Senate Republicans have refused to even vote on an Obama nominee, once again (and I repeat) putting party before country. I would love to hear the howls of protest from the right which would ensue if Senate Democrats had pulled such a maneuver based on an invented rule of procedure in which election-year judicial nominees are not brought to vote.The judiciary, an entire branch of government, hangs in the balance, with the current split being a 4-4 conservative/liberal. — Hanover
Once upon a time, so the story goes, we were ruled by a tyrannical leader, who cared little for the rights of the people and who governed with an iron hand. Through the force of violent rebellion, we broke free from our shackles, but remained forever skeptical of our leaders. Through careful thought, we devised a system that checked the power of anyone who was granted power so that never again would we be subjugated. These rules, among other things, divided the power of our legislature into two houses, provided an executive the full power to veto, and a court to review everything to be sure it complied with our lofty principles.How depressing. Why isn't this a bigger issue for Americans? Have they been placated? Turned docile and submissive? Or did it never enter their consciousness to begin with? — Sapientia
In any case, the courts remaining conservative can't be a good thing for a nation that's already so backwards. Guns, religious prejudice, death penalty, cops killing blacks left, right and centre without punishment. — Sapientia
Sorry, this is just conservative pablum. Republicans aren't in favor of actually shrinking or weakening the government: they're for doing away with programs and regulations which they don't like (e.g. labor standards and environmental regulations) and building up those which they do (e.g. our already-bloated military).It is for that reason that Republicans decry an increasingly central and controlling federal government. — Hanover
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