The economy being a higher priority than mental health, right? — Noble Dust
Calling the genes responsible is obfuscation. When people don't know what else to say, or they don't understand the causes, then they blame the genes. It's like in the olden days, people would blame the devil for depression...Genes that predispose us to depression, regardless of life events — Bitter Crank
Nope, the brain has neuroplasticity and can change how it functions and perceives - it can and does rewire itself.Defective neurotransmitters that result in depression, regardless of life events — Bitter Crank
I found the opposite to be true. Lack of work is psychologically unhealthy. I recently took a break from work for 2 weeks over the Christmas holidays, and I was restless because I didn't know what to do with so much free time.Work and social conditions which are psychologically unhealthy for us, regardless of our biology — Bitter Crank
This does happen, though I think it is a symptom and not the cause.Self-defeating ideas and delusional thinking that leads to bad life experiences — Bitter Crank
Solutions...Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. Oh wait, that wasn't the poll. — Noble Dust
Don't give a damn about it.Are you Lonely?
Don't give a damn about it.Isolated?
Nihil perduti!Humiliated?
Don't give a damn about it.Stressed out?
So what?Feeling worthless?
Because you're a genius, far above everyone else!Rejected?
Depressed?
Not in my opinion, no, but an awful lot of what I suspect you rely on on, both for necessity and comfort, comes from an economy which, by design, requires that people commit to a degree of unrewarding work which may well be inescapably detrimental to their mental health. — Pseudonym
Exactly... depressed people often don't find the solution because they keep searching. The search is part of the problem because it continues the same habit of thought that is at the origin of the depression, namely excessive rumination.Gee, why didn't I think of all that before now??? — Noble Dust
I found the opposite to be true. Lack of work is psychologically unhealthy. I recently took a break from work for 2 weeks over the Christmas holidays, and I was restless because I didn't know what to do with so much free time. — Agustino
All work has aspects that are unpleasant, especially for young people, since young people start work at a low level, regardless of whether they're in more creative fields like music, acting, film, entrepreneurship, or otherwise.Or if the work is unpleasant, there had better be a nice home life as a contrast. — dog
Exactly... depressed people often don't find the solution because they keep searching. — Agustino
The search is part of the problem because it continues the same habit of thought that is at the origin of the depression, namely excessive rumination. — Agustino
Yes.Did you catch my sarcasm, or no? — Noble Dust
Well mindfulness, prayer and contemplation (non-discursive) help, but really, just STOP IT!Do you have a more detailed approach in mind that would help mentally ill people to stop "giving a damn"? — Noble Dust
Why? That's what helped me for example.That's where you're going astray. — Noble Dust
J. Krishnamurti, the great Indian philosopher and spiritual teacher, spoke and traveled almost continuously all over the world for more than fifty years attempting to convey through words—which are content—that which is beyond words, beyond content. At one of his talks in the later part of his life, he surprised his audience by asking, “Do you want to know my secret?” Everyone became very alert. Many people in the audience had been coming to listen to him for twenty or thirty years and still failed to grasp the essence of his teaching. Finally, after all these years, the master would give them the key to understanding. “This is my secret,” he said. “I don’t mind what happens.”
Why? That's what helped me for example. — Agustino
Do you have a more detailed approach in mind that would help mentally ill people to stop "giving a damn"? — Noble Dust
That's not what you asked for. You asked for a more detailed approach to stop giving a damn. And I said that asking for that is like asking for a more detailed approach to moving your legs. And it is.Giving a more detailed approach for how to deal with mental illness is not the same as asking you how to move your legs, no. — Noble Dust
Depression is a social disease. You get it when people humiliate, berate, and reject you It gets worse when you do not have a friend in the world. It is very bad when you are isolated in the solitary confinement of a crowd. When ten-damned-things-after-another hinder you from every side, and when you feel rejected and despised by all, eventually you are going to feel defeated and worthless. Want to make it worse still? Drink heavily, use recreational drugs to feel better for a little while, gamble for a short high (while you go broke and get something else to worry about). — Bitter Crank
Only by proxy.which means I asked for a detailed approach for how to deal with my mental illness. — Noble Dust
We'll take up the tragic cases of unimaginative workaholics in another thread — Bitter Crank
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