It doesn’t really make sense to me how time could exist if there’s no space since they are in a sense the same thing. — SonJnana
It seems to me that this may be true when trying to measure time. To me, it still makes sense to say some sort of unmeasured absolute time passes at the same rate for all things all of the time. To illustrate, consider two human beings born at the same time in the same location. One travels to a far away place in space, and returns 20 years later (local time). Even if their watches measured a different amount of time, they have still existed for the same amount of absolute time. — CasKev
Hmm. This seems quite odd to me. The British during the early years of the second world war using quite obsolete radar technology were able to get a very accurate position on their bombers flying over Germany on night raids without using the clocks on the bombers. The only clocks that were needed were the clocks at the ground stations back in England. That was over 75 years ago. Today. much of the world is not covered by GPS, due to a lack of ground stations. This GPS clock claim is repeated over and over by thousands of people, but original sources are very few. There are as far as I can tell about an equal number of people in the field who challenge this claim, but rarely ever referenced. I wonder if popularity gets in the way of actual information transmission. Technologically speaking, there is no reason that necessitates a clock on any GPS satellite. — curiosity in action
You're talking about mysticism. We're supposed to be talking about science and philosophy. "Eternal now" isn't a logical term; its not meant to be taken literally. It's meaningless in the context of science and philosophy. — JustSomeGuy
Agree. But I thought my meaning was quite clear. I'm questioning the entire notion of a timeless state. — curiosity in action
Furthermore, even a spaceless thought has time occurring concurrently. While a time can be can be created, altered and destroyed, time itself is beyond all of the aforementioned possibilities. — curiosity in action
Of course. Logic is something we created to help us explain and understand the world, and it is a very good tool, but why would God be bound by something we created? Logic doesn't even apply to the entire physical world. Quantum mechanics has shown us that something can essentially be both true and false at the same time. — JustSomeGuy
So what is the domain of philosophy of religion? — bahman
Could God make 1+1=3? — bahman
God is not restrained by time; as he existed before time, exists in time, and will exist apart from time. He is in no manner restrained by the existence of time.What do you mean with above time? — bahman
Doing consecutive tasks and acts require time. — bahman
So what is the domain of philosophy of religion?
— bahman
We're doing philosophy of religion right now. Philosophy of religion is just a philosophical examination of religious concepts.
Could God make 1+1=3?
— bahman
If the God we are referring to is omnipotent, then yes. If God is all-powerful, he can restructure reality in any way he wants to. That's what omnipotent means. — JustSomeGuy
What is the point of defining religious concepts when there is no logic behind it? 1+G=whatever. — bahman
Either you're misunderstanding me, or I'm misunderstanding you, or both. What you asked has nothing to do with what I said, as far as I can tell. — JustSomeGuy
What does 1+God mean? — JustSomeGuy
I didn't say anything about us "striving on illogic". — JustSomeGuy
You accept illogic is possible, 1+1=3? — bahman
Alright, you clearly aren't understanding the things I'm saying. Is English your first language, or no? I feel like there's a language barrier, but I could be wrong. — JustSomeGuy
Isn't 1+1=3 illogical? — bahman
If God is omnipotent, then he is not constrained by logic. — JustSomeGuy
If you're asking me if 1+1=3 is possible in the world we live in currently, the answer is no. But God does not live in the world we live in, and so God is not bound by the laws of nature. God makes the laws of nature. So, if God is omnipotent, he could change the laws of nature to make 1+1=3, if he wanted to. It would be within his power. — JustSomeGuy
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