.On a subjective idealist account…
., there are only perceivers and their perceptions. Some of those perceptions involve death. We see that living things die, and once dead, no longer behave as if they are perceivers.
.Furthermore, we often perceive causes for their deaths.
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Let's say I perceive someone pointing a gun at me with the intention of ending my life. The person pulls the trigger, and they experience me turn into a corpse. I no longer am experienced by anyone as a perceiver.
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The question is why would any perception result in the end of perceiving for a perceiver?
.Compare this to a dream. I can experience someone shooting me in a dream, and my experiences will continue. From an idealist perspective, what makes perception different?
.Why should a perceived bullet have a different result from a dream or imagined bullet?
.Is there something special about perception for the subjective idealist that gives perception more weight?
.Is the perceived bullet afforded powers that an imagined one lacks?
So a person's story has a beginning (birth) but not an end? — Marchesk
Appealing to reincarnation to continue experience...
we can set that aside, for the purpose of this discussion, along with the reincarnation issue. — Michael Ossipoff
(if there isn’t reincarnation) — Michael Ossipoff
For example, Materialism doesn't hold up well in discussion. — Michael Ossipoff
I think it holds up pretty well. — Marchesk
Trouble is when it comes to mind, at least consciousness. But that's a small part of the entire universe, so I'm not as sold on the hard problem as I used to be.
Why is there the concretely, fundamentally, objectively existent world that you believe in? — Michael Ossipoff
As I've said, I can't prove that the Materialist's concretely, fundamentally, objectively existent world doesn't superfluously exist, as an unnecessary brute-fact, an unverifiable and unfalsifiable proposition, along side of, and duplicating the events and relations of, the complex system of inter-referring abstract if-then facts about hypotheticals that i've been referring to. — Michael Ossipoff
In general why anything exists is a question everyone has a problem answering. — Marchesk
Is there something special about perception for the subjective idealist that gives perception more weight? Is the perceived bullet afforded powers that an imagined one lacks? — Marchesk
As I've said, I can't prove that the Materialist's concretely, fundamentally, objectively existent world doesn't superfluously exist, as an unnecessary brute-fact, an unverifiable and unfalsifiable proposition, along side of, and duplicating the events and relations of, the complex system of inter-referring abstract if-then facts about hypotheticals that i've been referring to. — Michael Ossipoff
And I wouldn't agree with that depiction of materialism. — Marchesk
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