You’re saying that it is wrong to think of morality as objective. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Where does that morality come from? — René Descartes
According to the devil, where is morality from? — René Descartes
Which is why morality is social construct. — René Descartes
I feel like you missed the point i was making.
Im not positing an answer to your question merely pointing out that no one acts as if morality is relative. At least only psychopaths, which indicates that there must be more than just social construction. — The Devils Disciple
What do you mean by that? You can act as though there is morality whether it is relative or not. This statement means nothing at all. Actually, it's the opposite. Everyone acts as though morality is relative. I think that one should not allow for capital punishment while someone else may think otherwise if they live in the US or in the Middle East. They act as though their morality is that it is right to execute someone, i act in an opposite manner. We are told all these morals and we live by them through our lives and they change, everyone acts as though morality is relative. Morality may or may not be relative, that is another question, but everyone acts differently in their moral standards. So the acting part I am not very convinced about.
Psychopaths are an example, but another example is an average human being, and another example would be you.
I feel like if all morality is relative then it ceases being morality because anything goes. one may claim that an action is moral for that individual. Such and individual however has not followed his reasoning to the end wherein he can apply no moral authority to his actions. — The Devils Disciple
You have just proven my point. Everyone acts as if morality exists (Except psychopaths). I sense we are not actually arguing different points. — The Devils Disciple
You have just proven my point. Everyone acts as if morality exists (Except psychopaths).
— The Devils Disciple
no one acts as if morality is relative.
— The Devils Disciple
if all morality is relative then it ceases being morality because anything goes
not if its relative.Of course morality exists -Rene Descartes
Well now the first half of that sentence truly contradicts the seccond half. Ive allready said that relative morality is not morality at all. Im afraid that we might have so fundamental a disagreement on this matter that we can progress no futher.Of course morality exists I never doubted that or said anything against it, but morality is relative and a social construct. - Rene Descartes
one may claim that an action is moral for that individual. Such and individual however has not followed his reasoning to the end wherein he can apply no moral authority to his actions.
good question i have no idea.How does it exist?
You might want to consider this. If morality is objective, ask yourself why has morality changed over the centuries? Changing morals and laws surely implies that they are not set on stone; not written by the universe; not given us by god.
True, but as far as im concered the universe doesnt exist without consious beings existing to observe it.It [morality] does not exist without the humans that generate it.
Good question, I dont know.How does it exist?
You might want to consider this. If morality is objective, ask yourself why has morality changed over the centuries? Changing morals and laws surely implies that they are not set on stone; not written by the universe; not given us by god
It [Morality] does not exist without the humans that generate it.
Do you mean to imply that in order for something to count as "an ultimate standard", a standard must be "something outside physical reality"?Is there an ultimate standard of morality, something outside physical reality? — Issac Scoggins
Morality hasnt changed. Its is still wrong to murder, it is still wrong to rape and it is still wrong to steal. — The Devils Disciple
Well now the first half of that sentence truly contradicts the seccond half. — The Devils Disciple
— The Devils DiscipleWell now the first half of that sentence truly contradicts the seccond half.
-Blue BananaIt doesn't.
Why would you claim that just because it is happening somewhere in the world means its moral?
— The Devils Disciple
Because you claimed that. You said that everyone acts as if morality exists. — René Descartes
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