I might write a full thread about this, but I was recently thinking about why Peterson, Sommers, Quillette contributors, and other members of this sort of quasi-alternative right fringe never precisely explain how political correctness, or more radically, "Post-Modern Marxist Identity Politics", has (for them) dominated college campus, private businesses (STEM-based companies), and mainstream media and other institutions, influencing all of society. I think the reason for this is that any explanation would more or less require a discussion around the power of ideology, language, and power-relations - the very discursive tools that the humanities have provided as well, and that the quasi-alternative right (or whatever the hell to call them) aim to criticize. It's self-defeating. — Maw
Not just a lovely story about sisterhood? — Time magazine
Um, no, you spend tens of millions of dollars on a lovely story, and catchy songs to go with it, so that you can make hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office and in video and music sales, to people (most of them not politically engaged at all) who enjoy the story and the songs.No, not just a lovely story about sisterhood. No, ‘fraid not. No, you don’t spend tens of millions of dollars on a carefully crafted narrative that’s just a lovely story unless that’s what you’re trying to tell — Peterson
I thought this guy saw himself as a prophet of capitalism. Yet he doesn't seem to understand how it works. — andrewk
There is also the principle of "The less there is at stake the more vicious is the internecine warfare." — Bitter Crank
If anyone should doubt it, let them consider this latest UK scandal. — unenlightened
That is a scandal? :rofl: Man, people certainly have a lot of time on their hands...If anyone should doubt it, let them consider this latest UK scandal. — unenlightened
Prosopopoeia
Hamann used the notion of ‘Prosopopoeia’, or personification, as an image of what can happen in philosophical reflection. In a medieval morality or mystery play, the experience of ‘being chaste’ or ‘being lustful’ is transformed from a way of acting or feeling into a dramatic character who then speaks and acts as a personification of that quality. So too in philosophy, Hamann suggests.
one could equally argue that communism has the wonderful value of Love at its heart... — AndrewK
Yes, I'm not advocating the adoption of such romantic views of one's preferred political philosophy. Just pointing out that if one wishes to assert that some lovely, romantic notion drives one's preferred political philosophy, one should allow that other political philosophies may be driven by equally lovely, romantic notions.Such a romantic notion — Wayfarer
So far, the best review of Peterson's book (and critique of Peterson) I've read yet. — Maw
But then he starts saying how terrible Marxism is, and conflating identity politics with Marxism. — andrewk
I will admit one thing, though: I have had the privilege of discounting the significance of my racial background in large part because I'm white, whereas it seems much harder to do this for black people and other POC living in countries like the USA, since they're often reminded that they're the "other" through the actions of narrow-minded bigots. — Erik
I agree, completely with this particular point. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Can this also be said to minority’s? Who claim their own personal experiences of oppression are universalisable to all minority’s? — Mr Phil O'Sophy
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