With more time to think on it. It really isn't any different. They both believe that something is wrong with their body, which falls under the umbrella of a somatic delusion.So body dysmorphia is when you think your body is other than it really is whereas sex dysmorphia is when you think your body should be other than it really is. — Michael
People are born with mental disorders. I also mentioned that it has to do with how they were raised. Is there a study on trans people and how they were raised, like how their parents treated them as they developed (cross-dressing them, etc.). And at what point does a child actually choose his gender as opposed to it being chosen for them by their parents in how they treat them and interact with them?There is also enough evidence to suggest they are "born with it". — yatagarasu
With more time to think on it. It really isn't any different. They both believe that something is wrong with their body, which falls under the umbrella of a somatic delusion. — Harry Hindu
Believing that you belong to another body is saying that your body is wrong. — Harry Hindu
It's not that they want to belong to a different body. It's that they want to have different sex organs. — Harry Hindu
Then they are confusing their mental state and/or behavior and their sex. — Harry Hindu
Isn't saying a body is deceased saying something is wrong with body? or the body not being as it should? — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Only because it seems you have arbitrarily decided that if someone thinks they are something other than their body is, that means they are correct in saying so. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Can a man really know what it feels like to be a woman?
People are born with mental disorders. I also mentioned that it has to do with how they were raised. Is there a study on trans people and how they were raised, like how their parents treated them as they developed (cross-dressing them, etc.). And at what point does a child actually choose his gender as opposed to it being chosen for them by their parents in how they treat them and interact with them? — Harry Hindu
What evidence is this if you don't mind me asking? It would be interesting to have a look over that. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
This view on "essence" might be false, but it isn't a somatic delusion. — Michael
Does the transgender find themselves suffering from a physical defect? — Harry Hindu
Biological sex is the physical body, and if they say they have the wrong body, then that is a defect, as it ‘should’ be otherwise. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
It seems as though you are playing around with the ambiguity of words more than anyone else here. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Is the cis gendered experience equivalent to be the trans gendered experience? — Mr Phil O'Sophy
You really are. You’re limiting a words use to fit your argument when the word has more use than you are allowing it to have. By defect they do mean the specific things you have mentioned, but they also mean a number of other things, like I mentioned, neural defects, behavioral defects, defective beliefs etc etc etc. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Are there differences which give rise to the distinction between someone being cis gendered or being trans gendered? — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Is there something that trans people, being trans can relate to in terms of their experience of being trans? are they united in their experience of being 'trapped in another body?
or can the two experiences, (that is the experience of being a cis and trans person) equivalent?
Can a man really know what it feels like to be a woman? — Mr Phil O'Sophy
↪yatagarasu the sources which you have mentioned don’t seem to link to each other and each has a considerable amount of personal bias towards the “CIS gender” side. — Count Radetzky von Radetz
Presumably brain structure, as shown in this study. — Michael
↪yatagarasu if it’s dense i doubt i’ll Have the time to read through it till after my exams but I will certainly come back to them. Can you summarize them? What field do you work in if you don’t mind me asking? — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Like I said in the post you just cherry-picked. If they claim that they are woman in a man's body - that is claiming that you have a physical defect - that you are the wrong sex. To say that the issue is one of incongruence is to say that their feeling is true and their body is wrong - or defective. How do we know that it is the body that is defective and not the mind?No. The issue is one of incongruence between their gender identity and their biological sex, not in believing that they have some illness or physical defect. You're just taking advantage of ambiguous language. Transgenderism isn't the sort of condition that psychiatrists are talking about when they talk about somatic delusions. — Michael
Will you provide a source for that datum?Correct me if i’m Wrong (and that’s perfectly possible) but I think the US is like one of the leading places in terms of making it a comfortable place for people identifying as transgender and they have around 0.6% of their population that fall into this category. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
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