...solve the underlying problem. — Benkei
I'm just amazed at how good we (people in general) are at abstracting away "little" incidents like this. — Benkei
So the only solution I can see to really contribute is to pay an assassin to kill some key figures in that region. Unfortunately, I don't know with 100% certainty who the key figures are. — Benkei
It will take more boots on the ground in my estimation, or else we will continue to see very slow progress if any at all. The Syrian situation called for humanitarian military intervention years ago, but the West was too cowardly to act due to the perceived failure of Iraq and an increasingly isolationist electorate. — Thorongil
Military intervention which tries a little harder to avoid killing innocents, but does so nonetheless? Military intervention which kills innocents, but does so conscionabley? These missiles kill this amount of innocents, but these other missiles kill less, so they're alright. — Sapientia
Boots on the ground will only serve to address the symptoms (and they would have to be left there indefinitely to do that) it would not cure the real issue.It will take more boots on the ground in my estimation, or else we will continue to see very slow progress if any at all. The Syrian situation called for humanitarian military intervention years ago, but the West was too cowardly to act due to the perceived failure of Iraq and an increasingly isolationist electorate.
... but in the end seems like combatting a symptom that doesn't solve the underlying problem. — Benkei
often it is not clear just who that it is — m-theory
but to believe it would fix the issue at hand is just folly — m-theory
It is not clear to me who the bad guys are in this case. — m-theory
Who do you think ought to be held responsible? — m-theory
Islam itself is not the problem as far as I am concerned. — m-theory
The problem is the idea that society should be governed in accordance with religious beliefs. — m-theory
I believe the west has the right idea about separation of church and state but sadly many middle eastern nations do not hold those values. — m-theory
Who do you think the good guys are in syria? — m-theory
If the US did invade and occupy syria who would we place in charge that was not a bad guy? — m-theory
I don't think we can just kill the problems away in syria — m-theory
of course I don't agree that the US or west should intervene in syrai with military force. — m-theory
simply being outraged about the tragedies is not a good reason for a military invasion and occupation. — m-theory
There is a historical precedent demonstrating that simply installing a democracy in the middle of war is not mission accomplished as well.There is historical precedent for humanitarian intervention, and I've already given you one example. You may not know much about these things, and I suspect you don't given the content of your posts, but international law mandates that certain action, including military actions, be taken to stop crimes against humanity.
I would, were it a serious one. — Thorongil
Then you're blind. — Thorongil
Would you consider the Gulf and Iraq wars to fall under the definition as you understand it, for example? — Baden
I am curious how long do you think it would take to "fix" syria if the west did invade? — m-theory
And why you believe that the people there would be eager for the west to come in and "fix" it? — m-theory
Doing good by killing people is rarely right. — mcdoodle
I enquired what "humanitarian military intervention" entailed. — Sapientia
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