A belief is an experience — Hanover
Is it? Where's the argument for this? — Srap Tasmaner
You can have all the phenomenal states you like. I'm pointing out that if they are private, then they are irrelevant; and if they are public, they are just the everyday stuff we already talk about - colours and beliefs and such. — Banno
Yes, it's a sentence but not a statement/proposition. I should have said these are sentences, but not propositions. — Sam26
The use of the word statement is much broader in scope than the use of the word proposition. A statement can be a proposition, for example, "The earth has one moon," is a statement, but it's also a proposition, in that the statement/proposition can be said to be true or false. However, statements also include the following, which are not propositions.
A command: Stand there!
A question: What is that?
These are statements, but not propositions. — Sam26
I can't distunguish for you the external object from the phenomenal state, so I can hardly parse out the phenomenal state itself into raw presence sense data and preexisting interpretative data like beliefs. — Hanover
do you suppose their experience of the movie would be at all the same during any frame of the movie? — Hanover
None of this would be a concern to me if it weren't for your history of raising the smug quotient on this forum. Just say it. You were wrong. — frank
Yes, yes, the wording was wrong. I often make mistakes. I've made plenty of them, believe me. Besides I love raising the smug quotient it's fun, and just for you I'll continue. — Sam26
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