Oh I wasn't specifically talking to you. But seems like you thought so. Which is telling.SSU: There you go completely trying to twist my words. — LD Saunders
I do have faith in what the UN Peacekeepers have observed in Lebanon. They gave an objective view... that usually wasn't heard in the media.Your claims against Israel are pure bullshit. — LD Saunders
Yep, the typical viewpoint I was talking: critique of something makes you the ardent supporter of the other side. The typical ignorant bashing so common in the net.How about you tell us when you have ever condemned the barbarity and crimes against humanity by both Hamas and the Palestinian Authority? The Palestinian Authority as its official government policy demands the mass murder of Jews.
It's amazing how many crazy Jew-hating comments are on here. — LD Saunders
This is a dispute over land. That's what this is. If we accept Israel's right to the land it occupies, it stands morally right. If we don't, it doesn't, although I would not allow that the terroristic acts by the Palestinians are acceptable in any circumstance. — Hanover
Yep.Interesting asymmetry. Atrocities are conditionally excused on one side and unconditionally condemned on the other. — SophistiCat
Anti Israel sentiment does smell of antisemitism because it is disproportionate considering millions of people have died in the Republic of Congo wars and received little attention or academic studies or appearances in The Lancet. People are clearly very selective about which cause to get behind. — Andrew4Handel
His administration supported and co-drafted the Haavara agreement and supported a variety of emigration ''solutions'' to the ''jewish question''. I think if repatriation was an option during early nazi period they would have been supportive of it.Hitler supported Israel? That's absolutely false.
This report was published last year. There have been numerous attempts to discredit it, mostly by -of course- Israeli and US govt. To my knowledge, there are no real counterarguments to arguments made in the report itself, just accusation of anti Israel bias and antisemitism. The first and second authors; you can read about them and their educational background.Israel is a racist state? False.
I believe most of the discrimination is with respect to property rights and building permits. I believe there is also segregation of educational facilities/schooling and discrimination in education funding practices (and possibly other sectors, but I'm not sure).Israel gives its Arab-Muslim citizens free education, free medical care and greater rights than they would have if living in any Islamic nation, or even any European nation. Yet, the world obsesses over Israel 24/7.
None of those groups are recognized as having states or being subjugated or oppressed within their own, internationally recognized boundaries.There are Muslim people in other locations, including Iran, who are fighting for state hood, and no one even knows who they are. In fact, there are presently 350 active groups of people trying for independent statehood, and yet, other than the so-called Palestinian Arabs, how many such groups can people name? Not to mention that when Egypt bombs Gaza, no one says a word. When Lebanon mistreats Palestinians, no one says a word. When the King of Jordan violated international law and claimed the land for Jordan, through military action, no one said a word. Not even the so-called Palestinian Arabs said anything.
Israel has had no economic sanction placed on it, only condemnation. US and its pro-israeli interest has too much influence for anything more than that. Anti semitism is discrimination or prejudice against the Jewish people. Jewish people are distinct from the Jewish state. Anti zionism is distinct from anti semitism and is also distinct from anti human rights violations. I don't think the international community would have any real issue with Israel if it stopped acting on, what are effectively, paranoid-schizophrenic delusions. Just working to economically discourage settlement construction and reduce building demolition in west bank would be a huge plus for their public image.If one makes a list of countries with human rights records, from the best to the worst, Israel would be near the top. Yet, Israel gets more than half of the UN sanctions? And that's not anti-Semitism? So, Iran, Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, etc., etc., combined have fewer sanctions than Israel? Israel is a nation where an Arab headed the country during an interim period. It's a nation where Arab Muslim judges sentence Jewish Israelis to prison. It is a country where it's fairly well integrated among various "races," and religious groups, and extends greater rights for women, gays, atheists, and other minorities than any country in the Middle East, while its neighbors routinely commit crimes against humanity, deny freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and cleanse all non-Muslims from their states.
Israel is a racist state? False. — LD Saunders
No it's TRUE.It's amazing how many crazy Jew-hating comments are on here. Hitler supported Israel? — LD Saunders
Immigration policy to so-called "Israel" has denied non-Jews. That is racism.That's absolutely false. Israel is a racist state? False.
But by contrast, this guy is not going to get kicked out of the conservative party anytime soon. — unenlightened
I think that what happens is that they land on shore and see a lot of unoccupied land. Land is not an asset as such, it has to be worked to become productive, so there would be no notion that the new arrivals were depriving anyone of anything.
There was something of that notion in early Jewish settlements in Palestine, They were taking on unproductive land, so bringing it into production would benefit everyone. — Londoner
With such mentality, no wonder the old english imperialists felt entitled to help themselves to anything that crossed their path. — CuddlyHedgehog
So if Somalis landed on English shores, that happen to be unoccupied at the time, they can start working on them to make them more productive for everyone's benefit, right? With such mentality, no wonder the old english imperialists felt entitled to help themselves to anything that crossed their path. — CuddlyHedgehog
Yes, people saw things differently in the past. It is enjoyable to re-tell history as a simple story of goodies and baddies but that is not how it seemed to the people involved then, and nor is helpful when trying to understand the situation today. — Londoner
Attempts to morally justify or excuse what was clearly wrong then and now, won’t wash either. — CuddlyHedgehog
No, it was not 'clearly wrong' then. Do you imagine that in the past people did what they did because they woke up one morning and thought 'Let's be evil'? — Londoner
Go ahead and cite to us a single work by a leading university, like Oxford, that supports your Jew-hating claim that Hitler supported Zionism? — LD Saunders
Really?? Check this out: — CuddlyHedgehog
But the Zionists did avert their eyes.
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