If this discussion weren't about food you'd never suggest that stepping on a halm of grass was the same as kicking a dog-which is the logical conclusion of saying they are equivalent. — NKBJ
I'll wait for chatterbears's answer about insects before I say more. — Baden
In my opinion, there is no need for scientific proof at all. It's wrong to just assume and act like plants are worth less than animals, simply because you don't give a shit about plants. This doesn't make you a better person. It makes only you feel better ! — Regi
If you don't eat meat because you care less about plants than animals, you're just having an unethical opinion, nothing more. Your veganism may be all about making yourself feel better. — Regi
If you don't eat meat because you want your ecological footprint to be smaller, you have a good reason in my opinion, much respect ! — Regi
If you're a vegan and a piece of meat is served to you by accident, and then you don't eat it and rather throw it in the garbage, you're the worst vegan in my opinion. When an animal died and gave his meat to you and you throw it away, sorry, 0 respect, 0 brains, 0 veganism. — Regi
If you don't eat meat because you are hurt by animals suffering, then eat biological meat in stead. These animals had a decent life. I also don't like eating meat when I know for sure the animals have suffered. — Regi
If you don't eat eggs or drink milk, you're just weird in my opinion. We give the animals food, shelter and safety, they give us eggs and milk, it's just a fair beneficial trade between two species. — Regi
You also point out that you don't want to be a part of harming animals by eating their meat (which I respect). But, what if an animal had a good life on a farm (WHICH IS POSSIBLE), and then they kill it without it causing stress or pain (WHICH IS ALSO POSSIBLE), then there is no harm, right? There is just the natural food chain 2.0, without any suffering. — Regi
And about cannibalism, the situation you describe says that cannibalism is socially accepted, that it is normal to eat other humans. Well this is fiction, this goes against the human nature, we are not created to eat each other. We are programmed to hunt other species. — Regi
So why is it okay for a pig to be slaughtered unnecessarily, but not a dog? — chatterbears
There are many things that occur in nature, not just within our species, but within others as well. — chatterbears
So again, if cannibalism was the societal norm (which in some parts of the world, it already is), — chatterbears
Shooting my dog is clearly not better or more acceptable than kicking her. — NKBJ
The horse broke its leg and could never fully recover. It was put down for its own benefit. (OK)
The human broke her leg and could never fully recover. She was put down for her own benefit. (Not OK) — Baden
I don't believe killing and eating them is though as they are not agents and cannot ever become agents with similar responsibilities to us and so aren't entitled to similar rights to us. We owe them a comfortable life right up to and including the moment of death in my view but nothing more. — Baden
When I hit a plant with a stick, I feel guilt. When I hit a pig with a stick, I feel the same guilt.
I find it wrong to assume that plants are a better alternative simply because you don't have a scientific explaination that proves plants are not thinking and can't feel pain. What would you do if there is proof?
Would you feel bad every time you eat? — Regi
First time I heard that. I thought there were only a few tribes who did this. — Regi
We evolved as omnivores, requiring meat as well as plant matter to survive, regardless of if t is humane or not. Therefore, "wrong" is a relative thing. — Life101
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