The only problem to be solved is that of the human psychology." — Marcus de Brun
This statement was posted on another thread, I have deliberately withheld the name of the original poster. — Marcus de Brun
owever I would be interested to hear from others as to the potential for such an imperative, and if indeed Philosophy is 'predicated' upon this basic formulation of Psychology. — Marcus de Brun
I don't think so, and that's a very weird construal of Wittgenstein. Even on the point of philosophy being "therapeutic," that's a common idea about W., and based on reasonable evidence - but Wittgenstein had doubts about that formulation right to the end (which is why On Certainty is starting to look more like an old-fashioned philosophical thesis - a reinventing of the Aristotelian wheel, actually, IMHO). — gurugeorge
Of course Philosophy is 'therapeutic' .....if it was not, then no one would bother with it. It is only non- therapeutic in a Deterministic Universe. — Marcus de Brun
A sound philosophy particularly a sound moral philosophy is entirely predicated upon a proper understanding of the instincts and I think this is what Wittgenstein was ultimately driving at. — Marcus de Brun
Of course Philosophy is 'therapeutic' .....if it was not, then no one would bother with it. It is only non- therapeutic in a Deterministic Universe. — Marcus de Brun
Sorry, I'm not seeing the connection here. — gurugeorge
A sound philosophy particularly a sound moral philosophy is entirely predicated upon a proper understanding of the instincts and I think this is what Wittgenstein was ultimately driving at. — Marcus de Brun
What we do, our actions are all without exception instinctually driven. Try to think of one that is not? — Marcus de Brun
A sound philosophy particularly a sound moral philosophy is entirely predicated upon a proper understanding of the instincts and I think this is what Wittgenstein was ultimately driving at. — Marcus de Brun
If we define therapy as a process of relieving pain, and if we describe 'awareness of ones own ignorance' as being somewhat 'painful' : Philosophy as a means of understanding the self and ones place in the Universe.... is the ultimate if not the only therapy. — Marcus de Brun
I have the impression, that Wittgenstein believed that an apt and appropriate concern for ethics and morality can only arise if we can overcome the instinctual and subconscious aspect of mankind. — Posty McPostface
Oh I see what you mean now. That's definitely not the sense in which Wittgenstein thought philosophy was therapeutic. He didn't think philosophy was painful because the pain is a result of ignorance, he thought it was painful because we're confused by philosophical questions. — gurugeorge
Is there such a big difference in being confused and in having ignorance of the truth? — Marcus de Brun
How might we overcome it if we do not understand it? — Marcus de Brun
But language is simply a vehicle for the instincts, a means to achieve a single supreme natural primordial objective. — Marcus de Brun
Understanding the objective obviates the need for making such a fuss about language itself. — Marcus de Brun
And, what is that objective if you don't mind me asking? — Posty McPostface
That is easy. Like most difficult questions it has been under our noses all the time. The poets have being trying to tell the Philosopher for a thousand years. — Marcus de Brun
I must endure the idiocy of my peers, but equally they must endure mine. — Marcus de Brun
There is no alternative because there is no 'material' interventionist supreme authority to arbitrate on the matter and incarcerate or silence the fools. — Marcus de Brun
There is only the God of truth and its handmaiden 'logic and reason', whom the God must accept are often presenting untruths and illogical suppositions. — Marcus de Brun
Nietzsche reminds that we should have as much respect for un-truth as truth, and in this sense the fool is often correct. In this sense too, even the liars, the mud-slingers, the sycophants to intellectual self-serving fashions, and the fools; may indeed have something that is worth listening to. At the very least their anger (when they are exposed) is an exposition of worshiped fallacies. — Marcus de Brun
I fear that if you change the current rules upon the battle field, you will cause something important to be lost. What is important to bear in mind is the fact that there is a logic and a truth and one must continue to 'fight' for it and against it in order to make it real. Personally I think this truth has more life and more of its source in the old questions rather than the 'new' fashionable answers. — Marcus de Brun
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