That's because of the obvious comparison with computation. But this overlooks the fact that computers are, in fact, extensions of the human faculties, and would not exist without them. — Wayfarer
For the same reason, many are prepared to entertain the possibility that the Universe could be a computer simulation because it sounds like a scientifically reasonable thing to believe - except for the fact that all the computers that are known to us, are manufactured artefacts and don't occur naturally. — Wayfarer
I think you are overly optimistic about what science has already achieved. — George Cobau
So are you now switching into anti-Platonism mode and saying that mathematical theorems, like Turing Universal Computation, are just arbitrary stories humans made up for fun? Or did we instead actually discover some kind of universal truth there? — apokrisis
You mean that all computation has to exist within the material constraints of the laws of thermodynamics? — apokrisis
So, sure, the mind is like a computer in some respects, but what does that prove, beyond the fact that humans are clever enough to invent such devices. It really says nothing about the nature of mind per se. — Wayfarer
This is where I disagree with Chalmers, as I noted above. He actually makes it too easy on the physicalist. Everything going on in the mind is problematic for the materialist or physicalist, not just subjective experience. — George Cobau
It's the mind that makes categories, not the brain. — George Cobau
By the way, there are some really nasty people on here. I guess the hide behind anonymity. Perhaps I made a mistake to give my real name. I really didn't know better when I signed up. — George Cobau
What I am saying is that the brain can create something nonphysical, namely the internal mind and conscious experiences. — George Cobau
Given this reality, it appears that either mind and brain must be identical or the brain causes conscious experience. I have already argued against identity--not as much as I could, but that would take too long. Suffice it to say, causation is far more likely than identity. It is the only realistic option. Thus, in all likelihood, the brain causes, creates, produces, and generates conscious mental experience. — George Cobau
Do you spar with those jerks regularly? — George Cobau
Wow, you've really changed. I thought you're earlier post was interesting, but now you appear to have totally lost it. Are you drunk, or do you have another explanation? — George Cobau
There is no evidence to suggest that effects are caused, there is merely repetition, possible temporal relation in that one appears to precede the other and nothing more. — Marcus de Brun
This spontaneous change cycle of neural memory is where the mind lies. Mind is connected to the free energy flow, that has the capacity to follow the hardware and also go where the hardware has not yet been; institute new change. — wellwisher
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