This is legitimate outrage in reverse, those who literally run the entire country trying to mobilize violence against a small business owner in order to scare others into not taking the same stand — Baden
Could you give me specific directions to this supposed statement? — raza
And do you agree with the stand the restaurant took against Sanders? — raza
The restaurant has already been attacked by the way. A protester has already been arrested after throwing manure at it, which in itself is not so serious but I doubt it's going to end there given the continuing intimidation — Baden
So, do you support the administration's concerted attack on this small business owner? — Baden
So yeah, Huckabee he did not say that. He also did not obviously "intend" to do what he did not say. — raza
So if you support rejecting customers who have different political positions to the restaurant staff and/or owner do you therefore support a right for a Christian baker not to bake a gay wedding cake? — raza
I'd add that Sanders was refused because of her behaviour, not because she's white, not because she's a Republican etc. — Baden
I support their right to complain. — raza
So if you support rejecting customers who have different political positions to the restaurant staff and/or owner do you therefore support a right for a Christian baker not to bake a gay wedding cake? — raza
So if you support rejecting customers who have different political positions to the restaurant staff and/or owner do you therefore support a right for a Christian baker not to bake a gay wedding cake? — raza
And I say if you think he's not aware of the effect of his words, you are extremely naive about the nature of politicians. Maybe you just have a rosier view of them than me. That's your prerogative. — Baden
It's a gray area for me at that level. — Baden
Actually, Sanders violated 5 CFR 2635.702 by complaining on her official Press Secretary Account. — Maw
It is hardly a grey area, surely. — raza
Prior to the civil rights protests of the 50's white business people were enforced legally to not serve black people.
Of course many wanted to serve black customers. — raza
That said, this whole issue is a non-story. A powerful, wealthy, public facing woman, who works for an administration that separates families, was denied food at a restaurant. Boo-hoo. No one should care — Maw
Maybe things are simpler for you because you have a tendency to conflate and ignore nuance. Sanders was refused on the basis of her behaviour not her group. No issue concerning discrimination. A person who doesn't want to write on a gay wedding cake may object due to their religious beliefs and there is an issue concerning discrimination but it's muddied by the fact that they may still want to serve gay customers but feel uncomfortable exclusively about the institution of gay marriage. Someone who refuses someone on the basis of their race is a racist and definitely engaging in discrimination, which shouldn't be allowed. — Baden
You cannot make having racist views a criminal offense. — raza
Quote me where I contradicted myself then. What I said above is a criticism of your argument not an expression of mine. I explained my position very clearly. This is just bad reading comprehension. — Baden
You agreed law should be kept out of a private person's, including the operation of their private business, right to discriminate as to who to serve as customers. — raza
Someone who refuses someone on the basis of their race is a racist and definitely engaging in discrimination, which shouldn't be allowed. — Baden
Someone who refuses someone on the basis of their race is a racist and definitely engaging in discrimination, which shouldn't be allowed. — Baden
Engage them by welcoming them into conversation. They may change their mind at some point.
If they don't, who cares? — raza
"Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend"
Do you think this philosophy was in play when they addressed Sarah Sanders? — raza
Weren't you earlier defending the law's tyranny against illegal immigrants though? — Baden
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