They were hacked. — Jeremiah
Yep, this shows the utter ignorance and naivety of many Trump supporters. Why, they haven't anything against Russia, so why bother, why not be in good terms with them? So Trump is doing just fine trying to improve the relations!Couldn't care less. — frank
I guess that says it all. The grandest fallacy of all human reasoning: I don't know; I don't need to know; you can't tell me; therefore I must be right; go away and don't bother me. QED. — tim wood
How does this make sense? The meeting was not arranged by the Democrats, so who is it that was trying to entrap him? For that matter, what's the relevance to guilt/innocence?AND his son’s meeting with Russian operatives in the Trump Hote — Wayfarer
That was set up. Typical entrapment attempt by opposition which had, and was only designed to be, for media optics. — raza
The lack of understanding the motives and the agenda of foreigners can be very detrimental. — ssu
This sort of American exceptionalism - I'm assuming (perhaps erroneously) this is the angle you'll take - is pushed by neocons (ooh!) and others in order to justify continued American global dominance. All the while our own country languishes with massive discrepancies in wealth, in access to quality education, in healthcare, in racial and cultural divisiveness, in a pervasive cynicism regarding politics, etc. — Erik
The meeting was not arranged by the Democrats, so who is it that was trying to entrap him? — Relativist
I don't think the two things are incompatible; in fact that seems the most reasonable position to take at the moment: Russia may represent a genuine danger for us and our allies and yet we may need to prioritize our very serious domestic issues for the time being, and part of that may involve scaling back the empire. — Erik
Wrong it was indeed. But many think that only neocons are in favour of NATO etc.This sort of American exceptionalism - I'm assuming (perhaps erroneously) this is the angle you'll take — Erik
Now that a is big subject. Perhaps in a nutshell it is that Putin needs an sinister enemy to justify his crackdown on the opposition and to stay in power for life. After all, first it was Napoleon, then Hitler, so don't trust the West. And offence is the best defence.Enlighten us on the motives and agenda of Russia — Erik
One has to be critical of the criticisms and statements on both sides, which one can only be with truly learning about the issues oneself. Occams razor is a good method here.Anyhow, best to be suspicious of Putin's Russia and the manipulative powers within the United States - whether these be Trump and his lackeys or the previous and largely bipartisan "establishment". — Erik
Are you a Russian cyber troll? — Jeremiah
For those of you implying some deficiency in morals and/or knowledge of those who disagree with your view that the US should take on the role of protector against Russian aggression, do YOU have a problem with your country receiving money and other benefits from such an unjust and immoral country as the United States? Is that really who you want as an ally? Or could you "not care less" how these funds have been acquired and how the US behaves towards other (esp non-European) nations? Seems extremely hypocritical tbh to call out Americans for ignorance or a lack of concern while looking the other way when it benefits you to do so. — Erik
We need to get our own house in order before we start lecturing others on how to conduct their affairs. — Erik
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