To say that “one should have respect for what evolves naturally” implies a value system that reveres unintentional development. Not a characterization of conservatism that I think anyone would agree with. — praxis
"Evolved naturally" is a meaningless ethical standards observation beacause that's true of all actions and systems, all being human actions formed out to of the evolving natural world. — TheWillowOfDarkness
Good point. But weren't they a group of conservative billionaires making the mistake of thinking they were buying themselves a controllable stooge?
Trump would ride his populism to get in. Then deliver the kind of tax breaks, market deregulation, small government, policies they expected once he was surrounded by solid grown-up Republican advisors.
Those like Thiel and Mercer have been expressing buyers remorse - despite getting a lot of that legislation implemented. — apokrisis
My argument is thus that Trump is a rational phenomenon that reflects "the wisdom of the crowd".
There are dark forces in play in that many ordinary folk have it in the back of their minds that rough and turbulent times are coming. So let's provoke the crisis that is going to bring it on ... because we know we have the power when it comes to the show-down. — apokrisis
The worst thing that could happen is the US is tipped into such domestic turmoil that there has to be a big social clamp-down. All the names on the watch list need to be rounded up in black SUVs and taken to the FEMA internment camps for the duration. :)
What percent of the US population coolly and rationally thinks that might not be such a bad thing? Bring it on. — apokrisis
What's the most crazy response when Trump utters incredible lies is that the supporters (with the psychosis) simply love it as it offends the people they hate: the liberals, the leftists, the Washington swamp, the "Deep State" etc. The fact that Trump told a lie doesn't matter at all. It's not just that Trump is politically incorrect, which many do like, in the psychosis stage it goes into facts and policies based on lies. And if someone says that what Trump stated was untrue, the he or she has Trump derangement syndrome.Trump has managed to turn many of his supporters into mindless parrots for his talking points, and they are, with regard to him, incapable of any form of critical thought or even basic reasoning. As in, for example, when he tells hundreds of apparent lies, they'll deny any of them are actually lies. Or when he says words that mean things that are obvious in context, they'll deny that's what he actually meant because it makes him look bad. And so on. — Baden
The previous formula for success had been the proper two-face — wellwisher
I'd rather see more analytic criticism of Trump than the emotional/hyperbolic. But it's totally off base to claim this is some new phenomenon. — Relativist
I'd rather see more analytic criticism of Trump than the emotional/hyperbolic. But it's totally off base to claim this is some new phenomenon. — Relativist
you’re reluctant to clarify them when asked to for some unknown reason. — praxis
you’re reluctant to clarify them [odd and misleading remarks] when asked to for some unknown reason.
— praxis
Its only unknown to you because you haven't been listening to me. — frank
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