Freedom of religion becomes a religion worth killing for?
There are many things I enjoy. I wouldn't sanction killing to get them — frank
Opinions vary, yes. I'm deflational about morality without being a nihilist (relativism just being a form of nihilism).Morality is heavily nuanced by our values and our psychology. What is immoral to one person may be considered moral by someone else. — jajsfaye
I appreciate your need to defend your phantom cat. Its organized military exploits I was really condemning. — frank
It seems to me that one cannot posit one's existence without formally limiting the existence of others. To say, "I exist", or rather, "I will continue to exist" is to stake one's flag into the dirt and claim a certain island of space as one's own. It is to say, my life is important, my existence is worth something. But do we have the right to do this? On what grounds can we say that we, ourselves, have a right to exist, and if push comes to shove, also have the right to exclude others from this space? — darthbarracuda
There is no such thing as a purely pacifist existence, only a gradient of aggression. — darthbarracuda
The death penalty, for example, is absolutely wrong, in my opinion, because for the simply fact that empirical observations are always, on principle, about to be doubted. Guilt is never proven absolutely - it is only proven within reasonable doubt - yet death is an absolute punishment with no way of going back if it turns out the justice system failed in its operation. — darthbarracuda
To accept military action is to accept the violent deaths of many and the continued suffering of many more from the social and economic chaos created by war, and from the loss of loves ones. To accept the horror of war is clearly immoral. — frank
No. Pacifism is radical. It's about human potential. — frank
So it is not toward a realization of pacifism?
If pacifism is about "human potential" then surely there needs to be process instigated towards REALIZING the potential. — raza
You made the statement. You claim to know of versions of pacifism.
Is the “moral path” version the hardcore pacifists? — raza
The only moral path is pacifism. Comments? — frank
(re: Pacifism) Its just the assertion that all military ventures are immoral. — frank
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