I mean he sucks for multiple reasons including openly lying to the senate in 2006, opposing allowing a minor immigrant an abortion, — Maw
regarding the sexual assault allegation, I do think there is enough credibility to the claim to justify stalling the vote and holding an investigation. — Maw
A large portion of conservatives have expressed...interesting positions on it, but I'll hold my tongue on that until I hear your response. — Maw
I am not familiar with that charge but if you have a link I would be interested in reading it. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Looking at you quizickly... how many decades ago, were they both underage or consenting of age? Have you ever personally been involved with or a friend who was with a partner who is making allegations like these? — ArguingWAristotleTiff
That and the knowledge that a man or woman should be judged on a totality of their actions not on one alone. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Generally this is true, but someone who attempted to rape someone else should not sit on the highest court in America. — Maw
The fact that the accusations play so neatly for team democratic makes me think the accusations are most likely unfounded...
It's an almost perfect play, and as such almost certainly the accusations aren't substantive. — Existoic
This is not a criminal trial, so "innocent until proven guilty" needn't apply. Would you want him approved if she's telling the truth? Would you want him approved if we can't know what the truth is, but we know he might have done it and lied about it? — Relativist
He was drunk and jumped a girl - that's according to the girl. It's not very nice, and these days it's a serious crime, though not so much then. — tim wood
Might have been, maybe should have been, but wasn't. And, interesting, although not exculpatory, is that to date there seem to be no "me-too" posts. Really, for me, it's the categorical denial that matters. Women of my acquaintance have been telling me how it works to be assaulted; forgetting or being mistaken about who did it is not part of the common experience.would have been either assault or aggravated assault even in the 80s. — Akanthinos
Should we believe Ford? Should we give Kavanaugh the benefit of the doubt? — Relativist
This is not a criminal trial, so "innocent until proven guilty" needn't apply. — Relativist
Would you want him approved if she's telling the truth? — Relativist
Would you want him approved if we can't know what the truth is, but we know he might have done it and lied about it? — Relativist
Per the news, it could be. In the jurisdiction it happened in there is no statute of limitations. But as yet, there's been no complaint either. — tim wood
she didn't report the crime 36 years ago — Questionall
who otherwise seems like a great role model for everyone — Questionall
then we are all in danger of having our lives ruined. — Questionall
If I have no evidence except for my emotions and you still end up in jail, then any of you has the possibility to end up in jail for rape, murder, theft, etc. — Questionall
This is likely the most ridiculous political event I have seen in my whole life. — Questionall
I admit I do have some concern that the "me too" movement is designing it's own demise. I've repeatedly heard Ford described as "the victim" based on nothing other than her claim, — Jake
What matters more than what he did in high school is what he has done since about 1982, 36 years ago (Kavanaugh was born in '65). — Bitter Crank
At best, he's guilty of sexual assault, a misdemeanor. He supposedly got on top of her and put his hand on her mouth, a serious violation if true, but not attempted rape, attempted murder, or attempted kidnapping or whatever else you need to justify a lynching. — Hanover
Prosecuting someone 35 years after a crime not only makes it a practical impossibilty (many witnesses are now unknown, evidence is lost, and memories have faded), but it seems a complete disregard for the rights of the accused. — Hanover
Do we all suddenly have such great trust in our criminal justice system that we raise no objections to politically fueled prosecutions of ancient charges? — Hanover
Do we all suddenly have such great trust in our criminal justice system that we raise no objections to politically fueled prosecutions of ancient charges? — Hanover
To be more precise I would say that it's an extremely transparent accusation. No original report or investigation, a supposed crime from 35 years ago when the accused and the accuser were 17 years of age? How is that meant to reflect anything at all with respect to judge Kavanaugh?
The extraordinary thing about it is the tie in to adolescent sexual behavior. Everyone knows kids do extremely stupid things at that age, but to come out and say that in the current media-environment would be akin to an outright endorsement of rape-culture among adolescents. That is the trap. I admit it sounds a bit conspiratorial, but politics in these meaningless tidbits of media soundbites often is that way. — Existoic
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