Ann Garry, an interim co-editor of Hypatia, a leading feminist philosophy journal that had accepted but not yet published the paper “When the Joke’s on You” (a feminist critique of “unethical” hoaxes, as it happens), said she was “deeply disappointed."
“Is there any idea so outlandish that it won’t be published in a Critical/PoMo/Identity/‘Theory’ journal?” the psychologist and author Steven Pinker tweeted.
Nicholas Mazza, a professor emeritus of social work at Florida State University and editor of the issue of The Journal of Poetry Therapy that accepted the article “Moon Meetings and the Meaning of Sisterhood: A Poetic Portrayal of Lived Feminist Spirituality” (described by the hoaxers as “a rambling poetic monologue of a bitter divorced feminist, much of which was produced by a teenage angst poetry generator), noted that the article was based on the supposed author’s personal experience.
it is very easy to find and mock contradictions in human endeavours of all kinds — unenlightened
Have a nice simple little piece about identity politics that even you might understand. — unenlightened
The authors of the hoax hailed from the left, not the right. None of them are members of the power elite. — Bitter Crank
Is this fraud unethical? — Bitter Crank
Yes, you are being paranoid. Especially thinking this is some kind of right-wing conspiracy.Unfortunately, the clearly intended intention of such scams is to devalue all the legitimate pieces in the journal. Or am I being paranoid again? — unenlightened
I'd rather let through some garbage than not let through something valuable and innovative because of my extensive ignorance or even more extensive bias. — unenlightened
In the first case they'd simply be exposed as bad scientists — LeBerg
I honestly don't know which principles of philosophy of science the so called "grievance studies" go along with. — LeBerg
Where did you read me saying anything about a right wing conspiracy? Technically, since it was several people planning together to commit a fraud, it would count as a conspiracy, but it is not a term I applied - that's your paranoia showing.Yes, you are being paranoid. Especially thinking this is some kind of right-wing conspiracy. — ssu
Academic journals are narrow in range, and the editors expert in that narrow field. Your situation at PF would be analogous to Science or Nature accepting papers from biology, chemistry, and physics as well as French literature and Russian history. — Bitter Crank
Here.Where did you read me saying anything about a right wing conspiracy? — unenlightened
Well my darlings, it is very easy to find and mock contradictions in human endeavours of all kinds, and such mockery is not without purpose. - Have a nice simple little piece about identity politics that even you might understand. — unenlightened
The authors of the hoax hailed from the left, not the right. None of them are members of the power elite. — Bitter Crank
And turkeys often vote for Christmas, but that doesn't make it vegetarian. — unenlightened
But I don't think that is the aim and purpose of these people, to improve the journals and weed out the incompetent. — unenlightened
One would think so. But... no. For one thing, the identity departments are not sciences, and they don't aspire to science. — Bitter Crank
Here. — ssu
It's important to understand the motives of people's actions and not just put them into a broader context of an ongoing discourse in the media. — ssu
I'm not so sure if that's so true. Left-wing or right-wing media discourse can be far from what ordinary people who just happen to vote either left or right think of the issues. Typically in both political movements the ardent ideological agenda is narrow and can be far from what the grass roots supporter thinks. Especially in gender issues or when the issue is women or minorities in the workplace, I don't think that the thinking goes so between political fault lines.And this opposition is part of that general alignment of views that folks refer to with 'left' and 'right'. — unenlightened
I agree. What is only debunked is that all journals are strict in their publishing requirements. It doesn't mean that the academic fields themselves are nonsense.fraudulent publishing is not debunking. — unenlightened
I'm gonna guess (probably accurately) that this is more about getting a dig in at left wingers from a right winger. — MindForged
Yes, Bitter Crank has been for years the voice of conservatism and right-wing ideology on this forum and has fiercely opposed leftist thinking and especially marxism. Along with Maw, they are the life-long Republicans here now turned Trump supporters on this forum. :razz:So I take creation of threads like this more as OP signaling their political/ideological affiliation rather than them actually caring about the integrity of academic papers. I'm gonna guess (probably accurately) that this is more about getting a dig in at left wingers from a right winger. — MindForged
In academia it's quite normal that people studying something that isn't clearly part of existing disciplines want to start their own. Enough researchers on some specific field it's an issue of organization. Once you have an apartment for the field, then there's the biggest prize of them all: academic career positions.I do doubt some of these fields should even exist as academic departments. I have absolutely nothing against advocating for disadvantaged people. But advocacy isn't the appropriate reason d'être for an academic department. — Bitter Crank
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