'Where's the referent in the sentence, "I like this place."'

It is the specific place that the speaker of the sentence has in mind, and has presumably referenced in another way.

It is the specific place that the speaker of the sentence has in mind, and has presumably referenced in another way. — Relativist

I mean, this place, the TPF? Right here?

If you have to ask, you need to get a better grasp on the English language.

You just answered your own question, but is TPF a place?

If you have to ask, you need to get a better grasp on the English language. — StreetlightX

:fear:

What do you mean by that?

You just answered your own question, but is TPF a place? — Relativist

I don't know, is it?

No.

I mean that the question is inappropriate, and that you're not paying close enough attention to the context of the use of 'here' in your statement. There's no 'philosophical conundrum' here - just a false problem caused by an inattention to grammar. A linguistic triviality confused for philosophical profundity. As with the whole issue of math, which is not an abstraction of the 'mind', but an abstraction of the sign.

As with the whole issue of math, which is not an abstraction of the 'mind', but an abstraction of the sign. — StreetlightX

So, the sign exists independently of the mind, and the mind only makes it intelligible?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nous

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noetics

Relevant seemingly.

No. — Relativist

How so?

Forget minds. Minds are overrated and largely uninteresting. Think in terms of behaviour, action, practice. Math is a practice.

Forget minds. Minds are overrated and largely uninteresting. Think in terms of behaviour, action, practice. Math is a practice. — StreetlightX

So, you're a nominalist or instrumentalist of math? I'm not sure we can throw 'minds' out of the window...

Off a cliff, preferably. Along with the rest of Greek philosophy. But those labels I think obfuscate more than they clarify. As Banno relates, asking if numbers are 'real' or 'nominal' seems to be a bad question to begin with. One should refuse the question, not pick an answer.

Off a cliff, preferably. — StreetlightX

Is this some Spinozian turn? I'm attentively listening if so.

Do you have a point? I don't care to semantics.

Do you have a point? I don't care to semantics. — Relativist

No, I just thought this was a place, that's all.