Subjectivity is quite solipsistic — Andrew4Handel
The belief that an objective value/knowledge/morality is non existent — khaled
I don't think truth and falsehood hold the same value — khaled
So it turns out that nihilistic relativism doesn't exist. :cool: — unenlightened
So, essentially, I don't think truth and falsehood hold the same value but I think that way for no reason. — khaled
There is no proof that my bed is still in my bedroom where I left it, at least until I go upstairs and it proves to be there. But I have good reason to think that it is. And I have good reason to think we can communicate, and thus that the truth has value, though I cannot prove it. If values have equal uncertainty with the material world, that is enough for me, and for most people - one does not hear folks complaining that objects are not objective. — unenlightened
Since knowledge begins with unprovable premises picked out of a potentially infinite set of unprovable premises, it is impossible for there to be an objective value/knowledge/morality. — khaled
I think you are using "agreed upon" instead of "objective" — khaled
I have seen surprisingly few posts on this philosophy to which I adhere which is starting to make me think it might have some gaping logical hole somewhere that I'm not seeing. I am open to having my mind changed in any way (God, inherent meaning in objects, cosmic Consciousness, etc) so present your best arguments against this philosophy.
Quick definition: The belief that an objective value/knowledge/morality is non existent — khaled
these are objects, they are there whether we reason or not. — unenlightened
You have made a number of conflations, such as arbitrary and not objective meaning the same thing. — DingoJones
what do you expect from the responses? — DingoJones
All in a days work I suppose, living in a realm of zero accountability to the means by which humans can know things as you do. — DingoJones
prove it, but do not use any proof”. — DingoJones
I can decide whether it has meaning or not but in doing so I will have effectively decided that it does not have an objective meaning which is what the philosophy is about, non Existence of objective meaning. It doesn't say anything about subjective meaning. In other words I cannot decide it has objective meaning because the presence of the word "decide" in that sentence means that another decision was feasible thus making my decision subjective — khaled
Subjective and objective are the same things — Jeremiah
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