But you were the first to compare us to animals - namely squirrels. So, I'm not suppose to take you seriously now? — Harry Hindu
What does it even mean to say that the "scale of gods" is beyond our understanding? — Harry Hindu
We don't understand why that is for reasons that we don't understand, but can infer are the same reasons for which squirrels don't understand those things. — BlueBanana
That is very strange being that we are made of the same stuff and share many features, and even share parts of our genes. Humans ARE animals.So, from the POV of God, there's no reason to not compare us to animals. — BlueBanana
We just exist. There is no "why". — Harry Hindu
It used to be absurd to think that humans could land on the moon. It seems to me that we are simply talking about how we see the glass as half-empty or half-full.BTW, I'm not trying to prove there is a God. I'm trying to prove that it's absurd that any of us could answer such a question. Yes, theists too. — Jake
That is very strange being that we are made of the same stuff and share many features, and even share parts of our genes. Humans ARE animals. — Harry Hindu
Evolution by natural selection is one theory, and one I believe is accurate.I think what you're really saying is that nobody has provided a "why" which you personally find to be credible. I have no argument with that. — Jake
Evolution by natural selection is one theory, and one I believe is accurate. — Harry Hindu
We used to think that we were separate from nature, and not animals. It is only when we took a more objective look at ourselves and nature did we realize that we are animals too. So from the POV of god (the most objective POV there is), we are animals.So, from the POV of God, there's no reason to not compare us to animals. — BlueBanana
Sure it does. It shows that there is no intelligent design. We are not intelligently designed. — Harry Hindu
Manage life? Most of the species ever to exist are now extinct. If what you claim is the case, then humans are just fodder for other species. It seems like God likes cockroaches more than humans being that they have survived longer than most other species, and maybe cockroaches are the reason why "god" created the universe. What reason would "God" have to do this? Is "God" a scientist doing experiments? If so, then it really isn't a "God" is it?I'm sorry, but evolution proves no such thing. As example, if there is some highly intelligent agent operating over our heads, evolution would be a highly intelligent way to manage life. — Jake
Most of the species ever to exist are now extinct. — Harry Hindu
Not. The fact that species are no longer suited is because the environment changes, and continues to change. Environments come and go, the same environments coming about again - warm age to ice age and back again, so why not re-evolve those same animals, or why cause some species to go extinct when you end up bringing that environment back millions of years later? It would be considered inconsistent behavior if performed by an intelligent hand with a purpose. It is what is expected, however, if there is no intelligent hand guiding things.Yes, those species no longer well suited to the current environment are removed, to be replaced by other better adapted species. And god, should there be one, doesn't have to lift a finger because the system is automated. Intelligent. — Jake
The fact that species are no longer suited is because the environment changes, and continues to change. — Harry Hindu
Yet we have environments that haven't changed and species that haven't evolved for millions of years because they are already the pinnacle of evolution for their environment. Sharks are a great example of this. So God created the universe for sharks, then?That can be the case, but is not always the case. A random variation which gives any advantage over the existing population will be preserved by natural selection, and this can happen even if no changes in the environment occurred. — Jeremiah
It is only when we took a more objective look at ourselves — Harry Hindu
That is not evolution. Evolution is not progressive, it is not designed, it is a random process. You are talking about something entirely different. — Jeremiah
It seems like God likes cockroaches more than humans — Harry Hindu
The fact that species are no longer suited is because the environment changes, and continues to change. — Harry Hindu
So God created the universe for sharks, then? — Harry Hindu
That is not evolution. Evolution is not progressive, it is not designed, it is a random process. You are talking about something entirely different. — Jeremiah
They are all made up and none of them are real — Jeremiah
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