...and the consensus seems to be that life would not have meaning if it were devoid of suffering. — Posty McPostface
Everything in life serves a purpose. And no, you are not obliged to do anything you do not wish to do... — JoliJoleen
There is a terrible expression some of us in the trade use when suffering does not confer much knowledge to a colleague: Rookie for Life. — Valentinus
Say I have a desire to be able to be invisible at will. Well, that desire isn't going to be met, but in my view it's ridiculous to say that I'm suffering because that desire isn't met. — Terrapin Station
But, is suffering inherently meaningful? I think so.
Metaphorically it's a ladder everyone has to climb on. — Posty McPostface
I am trying to say it's value depends on situations and points of view. There is a way I can understand it as a ladder. But I have seen it as a kind of prison too. — Valentinus
But, is suffering inherently meaningful? I think so. — Posty McPostface
I thought you had the correct reasoning but wrong conclusion here. — Posty McPostface
To step back a bit. Go to an abandoned parking lot with one broken down car in it early in the morning. Then come back and look at that abandoned car in the evening. Nothing much has changed. That is more or less the world as it is. Our frantic wills, characterized by our survival needs/wants and inability to simply be, is what causes all the drama. That cannot be prevented though. Small insights like the parking lot example, may or dreams of utopia may be the only thing you have. — schopenhauer1
Maintaining a homeostasis is just what we tend to do. It isn't just home though. It is the cost of keeping the home, the time spent maintaining the home, and the boredom felt if one does not find an activity of some engagement- something to go out and do so you can go home and rest. Again, the frantic survival, comfort, and entertainment needs. We cannot just be. — schopenhauer1
But, doesn't the joy of owning a home or apartment override such negativism's? To have a place you can call "home" is a magical experience. — Posty McPostface
There's a lot of stuff to maintain that magic. I am guessing you don't rent or own your own place? — schopenhauer1
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