Shawn         
         
unenlightened         
         the universe is 13.8 billion years old. — Elon
we are most likely living in a simulation. — Elon
Shawn         
         
apokrisis         
         It feels like we are the biological boot-loader for AI effectively. We are building progressively greater intelligence. — Musk
Michael         
         
unenlightened         
         
Shawn         
         
unenlightened         
         Well if all you're saying is that reality must exist somewhere then I don't disagree with that. But his argument still holds. — Posty McPostface
apokrisis         
         How so? His argument is sound. — Posty McPostface
So if you assume any rate of improvement at all, then [virtual reality video] games will be indistinguishable from reality. — Musk
apokrisis         
         Any observer or participants of that shared reality. — Posty McPostface
I think that as long as the laws of physics don't prohibit such a reality from occurring, then it's possible and guaranteed to occur given enough time. — Posty McPostface
Or civilization will end. Either one of those two things will occur.
Shawn         
         But are you claiming those observers/participants to be themselves physically real or computationally simulated? You are failing to flesh out the critical part of the argument. Thus there is no "argument" as such. — apokrisis
apokrisis         
         
Shawn         
         
apokrisis         
         
Marchesk         
         The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are living in a simulation is very close to one — Michael
Shawn         
         
Marchesk         
         The argument for the simulation I think is quite strong. Because if you assume any improvements at all over time — any improvement, one percent, .1 percent. Just extend the time frame, make it a thousand years, a million years — the universe is 13.8 billion years old. — Posty McPostface
Marchesk         
         I believe Musk is creating the conditions with his Boring company and SpaceX, to be able to travel to any part of the world in an hour's time. That's pretty radical if you ask me. — Posty McPostface
Shawn         
         
apokrisis         
         Could you distill your qualms with Musk's argument? — Posty McPostface
Shawn         
         
BrianW         
         
Streetlight         
         
apokrisis         
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