ope I haven't been too annoying. I just get excited about these ideas and want others to enjoy them with — macrosoft
There'd be no past. Nones' thinking about it. It just doesn't arise. This rock is going through changes. That rock is going through changes. They're not even in the same "world" because what's a world but a perspective? — Jonah Tobias
The way we interact with the past and future to me is just the way we interact with our imagination. It doesn't strike me with awe. A "future" is always imagined- A "past" is always imagined. The present is always real. So the three are not equal- Past and future all exist in the present- and the present is just flux. Reality. — Jonah Tobias
the feeling is mutual. i want to brush up against the borders of what i don’t understand because that’s where the growth is. thank you for all the explication. i think i need to revisit Heidegger. — Jonah Tobias
They're horrible writers like Bob Dylan is a horrible singer. — Jonah Tobias
There is no thing without the motion. — Jonah Tobias
How precise is this present? And where does this notion of a perfectly precise present come from if not from clocks? — macrosoft
There's a difficulty in having to use the very words you're trying to redefine. — Jonah Tobias
I'm not sure its worth chopping up more on this particular subject. The differences- the stubbornness of the disagreement will probably reflect in some other area of conversation as well. Maybe it'll be clearer then- what is at stake? — Jonah Tobias
For me, my sense, my feeling when I talk about our different concepts of time- is that I feel like I am reaching for a demystifying of this time process- and you believe you are speaking of a time concept that has greater depth than what I am speaking of. — Jonah Tobias
And surely I don't understaand what's down there since I haven't really plummeted its depths just tried sometime years ago and felt like I was entering into such a foggy morass it couldn't have been erected in good faith with the attempt at clarity. — Jonah Tobias
But where that mistifying mist rises up in philosophy... only look what ugly thoughts can hide behind these abstractions in the case of Heidegger! I think its important to speak plainly when we can.... this goes for philosophical writings in general. We say that if we speak plainly (like Nietzsche) we'll be misunderstood (like Nietzsche). But if we speak only in this tortured complex language we'll be even more misunderstood. Didn't delueze have a dichotomy of these two language- common language and more philosophical? I see them as common language is easy to relate to the rest of life and judge- but difficult to know the author's true intention because its so easy to substitute it with our own. Why philosophical language is more precise and distinct as to the author's intention- but so difficult to bring it to bear upon every day life and connect and really understand it- and this itself forms a kind of mask by separating it out from the world it must refer to. — Jonah Tobias
Probably not that much is at stake. It won't rock your world ethically if you suddenly see where I am coming from. It'll only change your mind that Heidegger was indeed saying something fresh. — macrosoft
It may well be that 999 out of 1000 humans speaking in new ways are really wasting our time with their own confusion. But occasionally 1 of them really has grasped something new. — macrosoft
For me a lot of this came from discussions of being and becoming and questioning how it is that I experience time... as well as Bergson's theorem that when we say time we're really talking about space. Love me some Bergson! — Jonah Tobias
All my talk of Being and Becoming has got to cue you in that I'm down for the difficult language of philosophical thought. In my demand that philosophy talk in common language as well- there's a deeper demand there. — Jonah Tobias
Philosophy has got to lead to something! — Jonah Tobias
But I really think philosophy is something to be embodied and lived. It has to enter into our conversations. Its like a new eyeball. When you're describing this eyeball to someone- it may be very difficult language and very scientific. But when they've learned it they put this eyeball in their head- and now they see things differently. Once we've expanded our meaning of concepts like truth, etc- we don't need to explain them again each time. We just use them with a different sense. — Jonah Tobias
Basically what I'm really getting at here is- Philosophy for what? How come? Why philosophy at all? — Jonah Tobias
But more than that- because of those punctuated moments of truth! Epiphany! And Truth changes our world- our lives. — Jonah Tobias
When I look at the world around us- politics in america and the world- the "liberal elites" of the media- the ones who used to protect us from our own worst instincts- and subject us to theirs- they've been rocked by the populism of social media and the flattening of information in general. Its a more populist world of information. So we can't rely on protection anymore from those who "know better'. The democracy is a more true democracy- which means just as dumb as its people. — Jonah Tobias
So philosophy- truth- all these things become more important than ever. And one thing I like about my perspective on things is that it helps breed a philosophical humility. TLDR- we're just animals bro... animal brains. We only see from our own tiny perspective. Respect and love differences, etc, etc yadadya- And at the same time- Demistify your intellectual concepts on God that think they KNOW to make room for the mystery of true spirituality. — Jonah Tobias
So I come on to this forum as a- hmmm. its been 10 years lying dormant all these thoughts. And I feel like they have legs. I feel like they should go somewhere. Even if every single thought within this has been said before- its something of a new center. I've searched for it in writings and I've seen parts and pieces here and there, etc. But the big picture of it- the central thrust of it- It feels like Nietzsche to me but it doesn't sound like Nietzsche at all. It echoes Bergson, Deleuze, Rorty, so many, so many others of course. But its got its own identity. — Jonah Tobias
I find myself in the weird situation of thinking that I have something important to communicate and share in the world of philosophy. At this point I'm convinced that I do. Even if you disagree you can just play along with a- "supposing you did have something new to communicate..."
It's the "what now". Can I meet some professor and partner with him and have him do all the dirty work because he's chosen a career in academia anyways? Is that a kind of shortcut for me? Is that realistic.
Or should I just keep plugging away at this animated thing and try to reach a broad market.
The Acedemic world or the popular world?
What do you do with a problem like Maria?
If this was Athens I would walk into the town center and debate with Socrates I suppose.... — Jonah Tobias
I realised I was choosing when to be happy or mad. And that I could choose not to let things affect me negatively. In fact, I realised, everything has it's ups and downs, things change. But it is my decision to choose how I react to it all. — NotesOfAMan
Can you communicate your philosophy to a kid from the hood? — Jonah Tobias
How much does philosophy talk about Racism? That's kind of relegated into the English Department- Cultural studies I think. — Jonah Tobias
You mention serpeant and dove. One way of looking at rap or a kid from the hood- compared to abstract philosophy and where ever we're from... is Chakras. Whether you believe in one system or whatever- just the general idea that when you listen to someone's voice- some people speak from their belly- some the top of their head. Some are more rooted- some more airy. What part of a persons self is activated and where are we still sleeping. They say Hip Hop was born when people began imitating the drums with their voice rather than the melodies. Its the rhythm. And Rhythm is the lower chakras. Are the lower chakras lower? Only if you prize the mind greater than the soul. — Jonah Tobias
This Whitey needs his damn rap :) — Jonah Tobias
I love Dave Chappelle (Not because he's black). His point about the metoo movement. When you reject and kick out everyone who's done wrong- it just keeps them underground and hiding. They need to be confronted and given the chance to change. — Jonah Tobias
Recently I heard or read somewhere something like :'all white people think they are superior.' Is there a pride in whiteness that is mostly unconscious? Experienced as a kind of neutral pride in one's own self but dependent somehow on skin color? It seems plausible. If people with more pigment in their skin had by chance ended up in the same position, I think it would be the same for them. — macrosoft
Black folks tend to dance better. They tend to sing with more feeling. Not all, but many. To me, this means they're more embodied- more activated and aware of their feelings. It suggests to me they have stronger souls, and more active hearts. We melanin lacking are far more disembodied. Now advantages come with that- with less feeling we can be more controlled and disciplined easier, etc, we're less prideful, easier for us to act in our longterm interest rather than act out of passion etc. and other things too that I feel uncomfortable saying. But basically, when racists say black people are more animalistic reverse racists can just say- well white people are closer to robots. What happened to their souls? What happened to their hearts? What else is more important in life than the soul and the heart? — Jonah Tobias
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