Big Government (fascism) — Athena
I would greatly appreciate it if you would spell out what, exactly, we borrowed from the Germans in the area of education and bureaucracy. — Bitter Crank
The National Defense Education Act was to last 4 years, but instead of returning to our domestic education or what some would call liberal education, the change has become permanent and it has been strengthened despite some believing our constitution prevents the federal government from controlling education. — Athena
His [Eisenhower's] warning has not been well understood and some believe talking about it is only conspiracy talk. — Athena
It is essential to the understanding of this subject that we all understand the US also adopted the German model of bureaucracy and this became a huge shift of power when Roosevelt and Hoover worked together to give us Big Government (fascism). — Athena
The enemy to our democracy is not over there, it is internal, and the only way to defend our democracy is in the classroom. — Athena
How do you know big government and fascism are not the same? — Athena
So if you are in agreement about the Prussian bureaucratic order, how do you come to this information? — Athena
What do you know of merit hiring? — Athena
Familiarity with military life coupled with an interest in history. Prussian military organization was consciously adopted. It's a tool for managing a large operation. It was adapted to American industry by people who saw its advantages while serving in the military. — frank
How do you know big government and fascism are not the same? — Athena
But the development of management over huge projects has more to do with the industrial revolution itself rather than a cultural imitation of military organizations. When one considers the development of project management through the efforts of Taylor and Gaant, it looks like the influence of culture went the other way. — Valentinus
The US military and US industry were joined at the hip post WW2. It would be odd if there were no cross pollination. I may have overstated, though. My info is anecdotal. — frank
What's your association with product management, if you don't mind my asking? — frank
It should also be noted the "Prussian system" was not created ex nihilo but came out of responses to many forces — Valentinus
industry methods being used had their own genealogy — Valentinus
first chicken and egg — Valentinus
I would say Roosevelt introduced fascism to the US and I am sure he was strongly in favor of democracy. However, I think was blind to the problem of autocratic democracy. — Athena
our democracy will become as dead as Athens democracy — Athena
Prussians were authoritarian! Important difference. Huge difference! Anthill versus dignified and honorable human difference. — Athena
It was based on our values and we no longer know what those values were. — Athena
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