By someone drugging you, flying you to an impoverished country and dropping you off penniless in its poorest city.

By someone drugging you, flying you to an impoverished country and dropping you off penniless in its poorest city. — Baden

Oh dear, well thanks for replying.

How would you explain the way we learn 'helplessness'? What's your theory?

@unenlightened, may I ask for your input on the matter?

Not having to do stuff for yourself.

Not having to do stuff for yourself. — Baden

So, your take is that responsibility is the issue here?

My take is if the problem is not having to do things for yourself, the solution is having to do things for yourself.

My take is if the problem is not having to do things for yourself, the solution is having to do things for yourself. — Baden

But, what if one is unable to take care of themselves? Doesn't this complicate the issue?

You simply apply that principle to your limitations. We all have some.

You simply apply that principle to your limitations. We all have some. — Baden

How do you overcome the perception that a person has an inadequacy or failure towards better mental health?

So, someone who really cannot do something is truly helpless with regard to that something. Learned helplessness on the other hand refers to a conditioned state that comes from over-dependence, the solution to which is independence.

How do you overcome the perception that a person has an inadequacy or failure towards better mental health? — Wallows

Perception of who?

Perception of who? — Baden

Someone depressed, anxious or what have you?

Towards themselves you mean? Ok. Difficult. Maybe you could put them in a situation where they are forced to show themselves they can do more than they thought. Most of us can when pushed. But something has to break the equilibrium. People don't usually just spontaneously change.

People don't usually just spontaneously change. — Baden

What's your take on willpower? You seem to have an abundance of it.

Not sure what gave you that impression :razz:. Anyway, my take is we take the path of least resistance unless we have a very good reason not to. And that reason usually involves pain, physical or emotional. We'll ride all the way down that slide unless we think there's an acid bath at the end of it, in which case we might put a little effort into reversing course.

I hope I don't give the impression I know what I'm talking about with regard to therapy or anything btw. I'm just throwing this out there fwiw. Always consult a professional for your personal situation.

What's your take on willpower? You seem to have an abundance of it. — Wallows

You do too. You just will to talk about your lack of willpower. You've got 6,100 posts yet you insist you can't do anything.

You do too. You just will to talk about your lack of willpower. You've got 6,100 posts yet you insist you can't do anything. — Hanover

It's mostly undirected and haphazardous. Basically, disorganized.

Yeah, no shit.

:lol:

It's still some kind of an achievement anyway @Wallows.

It's still some kind of an achievement anyway Wallows. — Baden

Monkeys typing away, one day hoping to write the entirety of Hamlet could have done the same if not better.

I'm still laughing over my last post.

I'm still laughing over my last post. — Hanover

Glad you are. That was the intent anyways.

Monkeys typing away, one day hoping to write the entirety of Hamlet could have done the same if not better. — Wallows

Could be worse for you and monkeys. You could be churning out the type of crap @Hanover does day in day out. :monkey:

Could be worse for you and monkeys. You could be churning out the type of crap Hanover does day in day out. :monkey: — Baden

I still don't get your love-hate relationship with our fellow Hanover. Boggles my mind. You two should find a room and parade away there.

What makes you interesting is that you truly don't care what others think, exuding an unapologetic confidence in your chosen path of shiftlesness.

Boggles my mind. You two should find a room and parade away there. — Wallows

Don't assume we haven't.

Don't assume we haven't. — Hanover

Keep in behind closed doors, if you will...

What makes you interesting is that you truly don't care what others think, exuding an unapologetic confidence in your chosen path of shiftlesness. — Hanover

That's the inner failed Stoic, turned Cynic for you.

Keep in behind closed doors, if you will... — Wallows

Don't tell me how to express my love.