the history I’ve read holds both the ancient Greeks and Romans as unconfused about their, quite often bi/homosexual, sexuality. — javra
The ancients didn't have a concept for "homosexuality". [...] It's difficult sometimes for us to understand the ancients. — Bitter Crank
Let us assume that all transexualism is a delusional state, the question would then be whether there is greater harm in allowing these folks to live out their delusions or in forcing them to accept that they are broken. — Hanover
The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church wisely co opted popular female deities like Isis and Magna Mater into Christianity through Mary, who was given titles similar to theirs (e.g. Isis, like Mary, was worshipped as "Queen of Heaven"), just as it co opted various minor pagan deities who became saints of the Church, just as it co opted the form and structure of the late Roman Imperial state into its organization. While the Roman family was subservient to the pater familias, the women of ancient Rome had significantly greater freedom and status in society than did those of ancient Greece.The Catholics raising the female to an important spiritual/God position is interesting. — Athena
The fact that they used different categories to name and regulate their sexual practices doesn't mean that sexual practices weren't problematised. — Πετροκότσυφας
(The porn industry makes more money than Major League Baseball, The NFL and The NBA combined. — Jake
That was fun reading but a little of topic. — Athena
PS when men watch football their testosterone level rises and they become more aggressive. — Athena
The big concern about colored people taking over is overlooking what female domination could do to us — Athena
I will point out there is a difference between our private lives and being public. Our new technology has seriously disrupted the privacy we once had, and this lead to many questions about our social rules.
Like our roads have rules to protect everyone, societies have rules. I have a strong preference for those rules being based on reason rather than religion, and a very strong preference for privacy. I think those rules are good in advancing trust and reducing fear. I hope we can speak more about this. If I think you are like me, I am not afraid of you. However, when I think you are different from me I have all kinds of fears. What will you do and how should I behave? Today a lot of people are loosing their jobs and some are even incarcerated because we do not have agreement on the rules. You don't have sex unless you are married and then you have sex only that person, makes sexual decisions very simple, and that helps people keep their jobs and stay out of prison.
Our liberty goes with the notion that decent people follow the rules, so we do not need authority over the people to make people do the right thing. And again, I will bring up the importance of privacy. These issues were intense in the conflict between Sparta and Athens and for sure their sexual morals were not compatible with Hebrew morality. :rofl: The Jews became much more concerned about educating their sons, when their sons began behaving like Greeks. :gasp:
How about this- the best thing we can do for humanity is expanding their awareness of others, while at the same time having rules for their sense of security because when people feel safe, they are not afraid and relationships are better. Rules can change but perhaps changing the reasoning before forcing a change is a good idea? — Athena
As a White Anglo Saxon Protestant male I have to hope that both of those possibilities are nothing more than wild rumors. Better add a humor emoji. :naughty: :rofl: — Bitter Crank
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