Sure - The God of the christian bible is outside reason, there is no reasonable argument to support this definition of God, however it is not in conflict with reason to believe in such a being - all reasonable arguments against God, have valid counter arguments. — Rank Amateur
Yes, I think the Trinity is relevant only to theologians that have sufficient hubris to believe they can understand the nature of God. If they had kept their arcane 'investigations' to themselves there would have been no harm done. Unfortunately, they forced it to be included it in their catechism, which all RCs are 'obliged to believe' (whatever that means):When I was a believer we prayed to God in the figure of God the Father, or sometimes Jesus, also the Virgin Mary which is so dear for Mediterranean people; or to those already dead that were supposed to have a better and more reliable signal to communicate with God wherever they were now. — DiegoT
IMHO, their doing so is a perfect example of academic arrogance that shows contempt for the concerns of ordinary believers and no thought for the consequences of trying to forces their 'angels dancing on heads of pins' nonsense onto people to whom it is repellant. They miss the whole point of spirituality."The mystery of the Most Holy Trinity is the central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is the mystery of God in himself. It is therefore the source of all the other mysteries of faith, the light that enlightens them. It is the most fundamental and essential teaching in the 'hierarchy of the truths of faith'. — RC Catechism item 234
do you believe there is any such things as facts? Is the cat really on the chair? Can we trust our senses to tell us anything of meaning? Are we all minds in a vat? Or plugged into the matrix? Or or or ..... — Rank Amateur
ur What it was in reality independent of minds is something that cannot be conceived — Noah Te Stroete
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