If you read Karl Marx Manifesto about the extra surplus that workers make, why do the rich AND working class feel they deserve it? — Drek
If you read Karl Marx Manifesto about the extra surplus that workers make, why do the rich AND working class feel they deserve it? Isn't it for the poor? Who speaks for the poor? — Drek
just that the rich and workers, assuming there is this "Surplus", think they are entitled to it. Why not the poor? — Drek
why do the rich AND working class feel they deserve it? Isn't it for the poor? — Drek
Damn right Capitalism affords us great things. It lifts all boats. — Drek
If Marx was complaining that Capitalists made any profit at all then that's not good business sense. — Drek
I thought surplus value was the surplus of stuff that doesn't get sold (the article). Like, you make a bunch of bread, not all of it sells, but it goes bad. — Drek
I'm trying... — Drek
I can't believe workers are getting paid half the efforts... I see the relation to Serfdom — Drek
Doing the hard thing for justice is good in and of itself and for the results.. no matter how profitable or pleasurable being unjust is? — Drek
Hormel (bacon, ham, etc.) used to be a union shop and paid pretty good wages to the local almost all white workers in Austin, Minnesota. After Hormel cut wages, the workers went on strike and Hormel hired temporaries. Eventually the striking workers were replaced permanently and the plant became an all Mexican immigrant plant paying much lower wages for worse working conditions. White workers would not work for greatly reduced wages. Mexicans would because the average lower rate here is still higher than the much lower rate of wages in Mexico.
He hoped that at some point the capitalist would be done away with -- not by lining the capitalists up and shooting them, but by replacing capitalism and capitalists with socialism. Will it happen? I don't know. — Bitter Crank
The top 20 percent of households actually own a whopping 90 percent of the stuff in America — Washington Post
They worked for it, so it's theirs. — TheMadFool
That kind of thinking is very much inside of the box. In practical terms, it doesn't do enough to address the problem of inequality, and if you don't consider that a serious problem, then that is the problem. Nurses do more for society than many of the highest earners. How, for example, is making a profit from the labour of low paid workers, selling materialistic toot we don't really need, whilst nurses struggle to get by a fairer vision of society? — S
I understand but what is valued by society? A technician or a discoverer or inventor. A nurse is technician who only knows how to do something but s/he is valued less than the person inventor who made the nurse's job possible or easier. — TheMadFool
I'm not against equality. I'm just pointing out one of its causes. — TheMadFool
A nurse is technician who only knows how to do something but s/he is valued less than the person inventor who made the nurse's job possible or easier. — TheMadFool
Bezos's wealth surpassed $100 billion for the first time on November 24, 2017, and he was formally designated the wealthiest person in the world by Forbes on March 6, 2018, with a net worth of $112 billion. — Wikipedia
We just need to dial back the wild excesses in the system — Jake
f it's international, then the little weasels would have nowhere to scurry off to in order to avoid paying a fair share. — S
Of course we could simply stop buying their "materialistic toot", a great phrase which I intend to steal and re-license under my own name, making me an over night multi-trillionaire. Buh! Mere billions are for losers!! — Jake
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