May your posts always find positive response (or at least interesting negative response). — Bitter Crank
However, as far as interpreting religious books, even that approach might fall short — DiegoT
Values are fluid like water: water moves and changes states and occupy different spaces, but it is always water. It has two atoms of Hydrogen and one Oxygen atom. — DiegoT
There are people here who do not like biblical quotes. — Bitter Crank
May your posts always find positive response (or at least interesting negative response). — Bitter Crank
We can always hope, and that hope does seem to be fulfilled at least some of the time...otherwise why would we bother? — Janus
The truth that makes most sense considering it's context. Words by themselves are meaningless, words get their meaning by the context they are placed in.
Hence to understand the word, one must read the sentence.
To understand the sentence one must read the paragraph.
To understand the paragraph one must read the chapter.
To understand the chapter one must read the book.
To understand the book, one must know the society/culture it was written in.
To understand the society/culture one must know it's circumstances like:
existence in time, geographical location and (pre)history.
All those are minimum requirements in order to understand them in an even greater context like the devine. — Tomseltje
There is just no way that a text, no matter how well written, could convey the minds of people or supernatural entities that lived thousands of years ago. Or in the XXI century. — DiegoT
Hence to understand the word, one must read the sentence.
To understand the sentence one must read the paragraph.
To understand the paragraph one must read the chapter.
To understand the chapter one must read the book.
To understand the book, one must know the society/culture it was written in.
To understand the society/culture one must know it's circumstances like:
existence in time, geographical location and (pre)history.
All those are minimum requirements in order to understand them in an even greater context like the devine. — Tomseltje
For example, when we read in Genesis that there was a Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, the scholarly likely conclusion is that the translation was wrong, and it is better to translate "The tree of all knowledge". Because we do not have a pre-biblical tradition of trees of good and evil, but we do have a tradition of trees of knowledge: Hom tree, Soma tree, and there are also Egyptian examples. — DiegoT
The point is, that the level of certainty in the interpretation that a religious, or oracular reading of the Bible requires to avoid making the Bible say what we want to say is excessive, even impossible for us. — DiegoT
Just checked with my bible and it's the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. — BrianW
"the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" is correct if we understand "the tree of knowledge", without references to good and evil deeds. — DiegoT
I must also point out that your interpretation of the passage is personal and not justified hermeneutically. — DiegoT
So you can read that God recognizes this change of status, derived from culture (knowledge) that expel us from Paradise, that is union with Nature. — DiegoT
Consider this: If I download the Vedas with a good translation, or say I learn Sanskrit to read them proper: and I derive articles of faith and commandments from my own reading, am I a Hinduist? Or am I creating an entirely new religion using the text as a personal or communal oracle? — DiegoT
In the bible it says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"
I don't know how you can interpret a bald statement like that, or a commandment and it is clearly an incitement to kill which I cannot offer the principle of charity to. — Andrew4Handel
In the bible it says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"
I don't know how you can interpret a bald statement like that, or a commandment and it is clearly an incitement to kill which I cannot offer the principle of charity to. — Andrew4Handel
I think we're lost the moment we fail to realise our ability in determining our circumstances. The parents and care-givers determine to a far reaching extent what the children learn. When the children see their superiors subjecting themselves to institutions as if they (the institutions) have any real power over them, then most of them (the children) suppose they have no choice but to comply with the stat quo.
Neither banks nor religions determine our reality. We (humans) have given them too much influence over us but, if we determined to, we could reclaim it. The only deterrent is, unlike the collective handing over of power, those who wish to reclaim are often individuals who cannot muster the resources of the collective. — BrianW
Education - World Bank Group
https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/education
Education is fundamental to development and growth. ... to promoting learning for all, the World Bank Group plays a significant role in education globally. — World Bank
Edwards v. Aguillard, 482 U.S. 578 (1987), was a United States Supreme Court case concerning the constitutionality of teaching creationism. The Court considered a Louisiana law requiring that where evolutionary science was taught in public schools, creation science must also be taught.
Edwards v. Aguillard - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_v._Aguillard — Wikipedia
Texas GOP rejects 'critical thinking' skills. Really. - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../texas-gop.../2012/07/.../gJQAHNpFXW_blog.htm...
Jul 9, 2012 - In the you-can't-make-up-this-stuff department, the Republican Party of Texas wrote in its 2012 platform that itopposes the teaching of “higher ... — Washington Post
(That is what I tell my family - It's not what you have that determines who you are but who you are determines what you have. Also, that it's more important to be than to have because, in the end, all you have is who you are.) — BrianW
People complain due to many reasons, primarily desperation, and all those reasons are signs of weakness. I have it and so do many others too. The only solution is to fight against the weakness and resolve to fight even if by oneself. But if someone is only willing to fight if supported by others then they should also be willing to wait until those others are ready and willing, even if it means never. — BrianW
Excuse me, where do you get your information? It is different from the information I have. The World Bank has influenced education around the world and the citizens in all countries are unaware of why education was changed. — Athena
And for religion, my goodness teachers took the Texas school system to court in a fight over if science book should include the Christian creation story, and the teachers won at the supreme court level. — Athena
At this point, I have no idea what you think we should fight for and what we are fighting against. Of what do people complain? I am saying without the education the Christians stand against, everyone is prepared to be owned by the banks. We may be saying the same thing in different ways? If not we need to continue the argument until we have an agreement. — Athena
What you have said is very important, and I want to know what education do you think leads the character you speak of? — Athena
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