Vegan's see no Paradox and in their hypocrisy denounce humans being omnivores.We have a taste for meat and so have to kill but our morals forbid us to harm or kill.
The Vegan paradox. — TheMadFool
All too often one finds that, does one?All too often one finds that these people use all the luxuries society has to offer, except for the fact that they don't eat animal products, ignoring the fact that all these other luxuries contribute either directly or indirectly to the suffering of other beings (including other humans). — Tzeentch
That's a problem, but clearly not an argument to go ahead and commit mass murder. — NKBJ
It's not paradoxical though. Veganism is about the commitment to reducing suffering. They're under no illusions that all suffering will be gone. It's clearly not paradoxical to ascribe to ideals that greatly reduce suffering. — NKBJ
And NKBJ explained here why that is not contradictory. You have not responded to that explanation. If you still believe it is contradictory or a paradox (you actually said it was both) you need to explain why that is the case. How can a goal of reducing animal suffering be used to justify eating meat or, more specifically, eating meat produced by Western factory farming methods?What I said was, when a vegan argues against a meat eater on the basis of suffering they are being contradictory because the vegan too causes suffering for what they eat. — DingoJones
Humans are the first animals known to have what we call morals. Ethical living is of concern to us. — TheMadFool
Here is what you said:The explanation of NKBJ you linked, like your reiteration of it, doesnt address what I am saying. — DingoJones
The response to that was that the vegan causes less suffering and the moral principle they are following is to reduce suffering.When a vegan argues against a meat eater on the basis of suffering they are being contradictory because the vegan too causes suffering for what they eat. — DingoJones
No they're not. Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, William Wilberforce, Emily Pankhurst, Yitzakh Rabin were all revered for their integrity and moral courage. I can't think of anybody that would describe any of them as docile.People who are of moral bent are generally docile. — TheMadFool
Can you explain how you find a contradiction in that response, or how it fails to address your claim that veganism is contradictory? — andrewk
No they're not. Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, William Wilberforce, Emily Pankhurst, Yitzakh Rabin were all revered for their integrity and moral courage. I can't think of anybody that would describe any of them as docile. — andrewk
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