I think evolution is a claim of objective meaning where evolutionary theorist seek to explain life from a fixed or lawful paradigm. — Andrew4Handel
where are you getting the meaning from? — Andrew4Handel
Evolution is just the function of our existence. — Christoffer
Evolution seeks to explain characteristics or attributes we have in terms of evolutionary usefulness. These are expected to determine some or all of our characteristics.
There would be no point in the theory if it didn't meaningfully explain anything. — Andrew4Handel
There is the value problem in meaning. Hitler seemed to have a lot of meaning and purpose in his life to the point he controlled a large army and several countries. How can one persons meaning be superior to another if we just have to make our own meaning?
Somehow Hitler needed an alternative source of meaning , purpose and satisfaction. — Andrew4Handel
Today I would like to discuss with you a very delicate but interesting subject that has been on everybody's mind since the beginning of mankind. The purpose of life. So I wanted to ask you this. What is the purpose of life? I tend to agree with the premise that there is a purpose to every form of life from microscopic beings to macroscopic ones. This brings me to my second question: should life exist without purpose? Let me explain a little bit. Life is a cycle and everything in it contributes in order to maintain the universal order of things. Can life exist without purpose? I do not think so but I'm open for debate. — StreetlightX
Why are you putting one person's meaning against another? Hitler might have felt a sense of meaning for himself, but why should that be set to a standard meaning for all? — Christoffer
Hitler is probably the ultimate example of someone making and living their own meaning in a large way. He had a whole ideology, architecture, music,gained power, boosted his ego. But it was all a dangerous fantasy. — Andrew4Handel
On the " make your own meaning" idea you have no grounds to criticize anyone's meaning making however destructive and murderous. — Andrew4Handel
This is one other reasons i think the claim to make you own meaning is a triviality. It is like a platitude but it doesn't explore what the consequences of the claim would be. — Andrew4Handel
This depends on what the mind actually is. And what is in your mind where does that come from? — Andrew4Handel
One of the reasons being born is bad is that everyone is being used. It is the premise of life. Your pain is on top of the fact that your work is needed, and you need others' work. The purpose of your life is to be used by your fellow humans, use your fellow humans, and try to maximize utility within the framework of use that has been set up by you by your contingent historical socio-economic circumstances. — schopenhauer1
It doesn't have to be so bad. It's really simple. There are two options. Option A) make the most of it. Option B) give up.
You're constantly overcomplicating things and exaggerating one side. It's very irritating. It's more propaganda than philosophy. — S
To the contrary, the world is pretty darn complicated, based on many levels of socio-economic realities and parties. — schopenhauer1
I never said we don't have the ability to cope. — schopenhauer1
It's funny, that if someone affirms life it is not propaganda, but if someone denies it it is..I never denied that good experiences exist. However, I am pointing out some of the realities of how that good is played out in the real world. — schopenhauer1
No, not to the contrary. I didn't say that the world wasn't complicated. The world is extremely complicated. You're twisting my words. I was saying that what the issue you raised boils down to isn't complicated, in the sense that there's only two options on the table which can be summed up in just a few words. — S
I meant this particular discussion to be more of a quick one-liner to Bitter Crank..but I see I now have to put my dukes up.. I'll try to put the effort into going down this rabbit hole later. — schopenhauer1
Creating your own meaning in life gives you a reason to exist in your life. — Christoffer
There is no purpose to life. It's the consequence of billions after billions of random dead matter clashing together into chemical reactions until organic matter developed. Later, that organic matter developed simple functions that would guide it into existing with least resistance to the environment — Christoffer
Many take a leap of faith — Rank Amateur
What Camus says is he is looking for the absurd hero - who knows there is no meaning, but who challenges the absurdity and at the same time accepts it ( not sure how one is supposed to do that). That in the absence of meaning they finds contentment in knowing the truth that there is no meaning. — Rank Amateur
What if one experiences meaning? Would that still be considered a leap of faith? — Tzeentch
Maybe I am nitpicking here, but knowing the "truth" in this context sounds naive. — Tzeentch
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