I'm saying that to value life and to use reason is to be objective. — AppLeo
That is what mysticism is. — AppLeo
Mysticism is the antithesis to reason. — AppLeo
Reason is our only means to knowing reality. — AppLeo
Mysticism and death is bad. I don't understand how they are good things. — AppLeo
They are objectively bad. — AppLeo
Why would we want to live in a world where humans don't value life, and pursue mysticism instead of reason to understand reality[?] — AppLeo
People who don't value life and don't hold reason as an absolute are people who make the world worse, not only for themselves, but for everybody else. — AppLeo
Your kind of thinking is the reason why people can justify doing horrible things. — AppLeo
Because there is no right or wrong. — AppLeo
Because there is no morality, people can do whatever it is they please because, "it's my values there is no right and wrong." — AppLeo
You don't really believe this do you, it's a joke right. — Rank Amateur
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Doing math is an operation. It's about arithmetic and applying mathematical procedures such as addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, estimation, and measurement to solve an algorithmic or story problem correctly and successfully. It's all about the reproducing and applying facts and procedures to achieve or attain that correct answer because, in the end, that's all that mattered - get the correct answer!
Thinking mathematically is an art - specifically, as Lockhart (2002) states, "the art of explanation. It's about actively developing deeper knowledge, understanding, and awareness of mathematical concepts, practices, and processes - more specifically, analyzing how, evaluating why, and creating new ways of thinking about and using mathematics. It focuses on deeper understanding of procedural knowledge, deeper thinking about conceptual knowledge, and deeper awareness of how mathematics can address, handle, settle, or solve real world issues, problems, and situations. — maverikeducation
Try taking out the word Christian in your sentence and insert black people and see how it reads — Rank Amateur
Mysticism is the antithesis to reason. Reason is our only means to knowing reality. — AppLeo
Combining these two forms of logical reasoning together with the three different types results in the following distinguish in logical reasoning:
Deductive. Formal deductive reasoning. Informal deductive reasoning.
Inductive. Formal inductive reasoning. Informal inductive reasoning.
Abductive. Formal abductive reasoning.
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3.1 Syllogistic logic.
3.2 Propositional logic.
3.3 Predicate logic.
3.4 Modal logic.
3.5 Informal reasoning and dialectic.
3.6 Mathematical logic.
3.7 Philosophical logic.
3.8 Computational logic.
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Animals can only know reality through observation. They navigate through life with their instinct.
Humans navigate with reason. — AppLeo
You're wrong on both counts, all mammals navigate through life with the same fundamental framework. 'Knowing' something essentially means being able to make predictions about that something and all mammals have this basic capacity. Humans can make more predictions about the world and more sophisticated predictions than other species. — praxis
As for humans navigating the world with reason, do I really need to point out how irrational people are??? — praxis
You're wrong on both counts, all mammals navigate through life with the same fundamental framework. 'Knowing' something essentially means being able to make predictions about that something and all mammals have this basic capacity. Humans can make more predictions about the world and more sophisticated predictions than other species.
— praxis
Humans can think way bigger and deeper than any animal. — AppLeo
Yeah, people are irrational. — AppLeo
why do think I keep advocating for reason over faith and mysticism? — AppLeo
This line of discussion started with your claim that "reason is our only means to knowing reality." I suggest that a better way of saying this is that with language people have the ability to share information or mental representations and in this way we may 'know reality' in a way that other mammals cannot, in addition to our own experience. — praxis
We're apparently able to form more complex concepts and mental simulations than other mammals, and this relates to 'knowing reality' in terms of making predictions and 'navigating through life', but all concepts are formed from experience. — praxis
Mysticism is based in experience. Though with the capacity of human reason people can fool other people into believing things that are not based in their personal experience in order to manipulate others. — praxis
Earlier you claimed that "Humans navigate with reason." How can humans navigate with reason if they are irrational? — praxis
Because you have a simplistic understanding of faith and mysticism, quite frankly, and you overvalue reason. — praxis
Again, the value of mysticism is that it can relieve existential anxiety. This is important to a happy and fulfilled life. Can you not see that? — praxis
People shouldn't place their happiness on something outside of themselves in the first place. — AppLeo
To be faithful is to undermine the value and judgment of your own mind. — AppLeo
How does faith, accepting something as truth without evidence lead to happiness or relieve anxiety? — AppLeo
So being faithful to your spouse, for instance, which may have nothing to do with religion, is undermining your minds value and judgment? Faith has an aspect of loyalty. — praxis
Mysticism and faith are not synonymous, you're conflating the two. Also, mysticism is experiential and may not need to be taken on faith. As for faith, I've alluded to its social qualities, without which it's difficult to imagine happiness or fulfillment, for me anyway. And I'm not talking about religious faith necessarily. — praxis
Faith in terms of accepting truths without evidence is bad. — AppLeo
They [mysticism and faith] are the same in the sense that they both accept truth without evidence. — AppLeo
Oh please, you know what a ridiculous thing this is to say. We can't verify every truth claim we encounter everyday. — praxis
Mysticism can be experiential. Apparently you don't believe me when I make this claim. Being a person who claims to believe that accepting a truth without evidence is bad, I assume you will try to verify my claim before deciding which of us is right. — praxis
I think it's intellectually lazy and destructive to claim a truth that you have no evidence for. — AppLeo
There are countless examples of people reporting mystical experiences. I doubt any of these will be convincing for you. — praxis
"It is a frequent assertion of ours that the whole universe is manifestly completed and enclosed by the Decad and seeded by the Monad, and it gains movement thanks to the Dyad and life thanks to the Pentad." Iamblichus — Iamblichus
The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter.[4] This verse and others throughout Johannine literature connect the Christian understanding of Jesus to the philosophical idea of the Logos and the Hebrew Wisdom literature. They also set the stage for the later development of Trinitarian theology early in the post-biblical era. — Wikipedia
Logos means, reason, thought of as constituting the controlling principle of the universe and as being manifested by speech. — Webster Dictionary
Because the study of the Neural Correlates of Consciousness (NCC) is, by and large, dependent on subjective reports of experience, what passes for the NCC is liable to be merely the neural correlates of meta-consciousness. As such, potentially conscious mental activity—in the sense of activity correlated with experiential qualities—may evade recognition as such.
As a matter of fact, there is circumstantial but compelling evidence that this is precisely the case. To see it, notice first the conscious knowledge N—that is, the re-representation—of an experience X is triggered by the occurrence of X. For instance, it is the occurrence of a sense perception that triggers the metacognitive realization one is perceiving something. N, in turn, evokes X by directing attention back to it: the realization one is perceiving something naturally shifts one’s mental focus back to the original perception. So we end up with a back-and-forth cycle of evocations whereby X triggers N, which in turn evokes X, which again triggers N, and so forth. — Bernardo Kastrup
Again, the value of mysticism is that it can relieve existential anxiety. This is important to a happy and fulfilled life. Can you not see that?
— praxis
Disagree. People shouldn't place their happiness on something outside of themselves in the first place. To be faithful is to undermine the value and judgement of your own mind. How does faith, accepting something as truth without evidence lead to happiness or relieve anxiety? You relieve anxiety and find happiness when you find out what is true because there is evidence for it. — AppLeo
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