I'm not saying that, I say finding a point requires feeling a desire, and that it is meaningless to try to apply the concept of point to the whole of existence, I don't say that if you don't find a point you should kill yourself.so what youre basically saying is that, i gotta live if i wanna play guitar and fall in love, and if i dont want anything, suicide is the best option — Rhasta1
Why should you kill yourself if you don't find a point? Is life really so unbearable to you that you prefer not to live if you don't find a point? — leo
as stated earlier, wish i could i help it. — Rhasta1
As many in the past have reached this conclusion more or less, it all comes down to the most simple of questions. To be or not to be?
Some live good lives even though they know that life is ultimately pointless.
So what keeps you alive, and why? Do you have any tips on how to get past nihilism? — Rhasta1
suicidal is nothing but an option to extract early if you do not like this game, this labyrinth that God or the gods have put forward.
its highly ironic to me that god gave us this life that sucks in every level and get mad if we don't play by the rules — Rhasta1
-If you're contemplating suicide, then maybe it would be prudent ask yourself what you expect to gain by it. I suggest that, with loss of waking-consciousness, you'd have the vague but horrific nightmare knowledge something really bad has happened, and that it was done by you.
There's no such thing as oblivion. You'll never experience a time when you aren't. Then how do you want it to be?
.How can you know for sure that there's no such thing as oblivion, absolute silence and blackness?
.Oblivion sounds like nothing, but it can give you that nothing else can, peace of mind.
.I'd love it if you could tell me why you think that oblivion is nothing but an illusion.
.Are you saying that because the horrific nightmare knowledge that something really bad has happened would comprise our last moment…
., that a lack of oblivion would somehow perpetuate this subjective moment into eternity?
i gotta live if i wanna play guitar and fall in love, and if i don't want anything, suicide is the best option — Rhasta1
Approaching nothing, sure, but never getting there — Michael Ossipoff
But I'd like to argue that euthanasia, self-requested, is a form of suicide nevertheless. See, people who take their own lives, teenage girls or unemployed dudes, are suffering to an extent which is indurable for them. They don't kill themselves because their boyfriends broke up with them or they lost their job, they suffer because the value of their lives, which was based on careers or a loving relationship, shatter and they seem unable to find any reason to why they have got to continue the futile existence. And in my opinion, this kinda existential crisis is far more painful and excruciating than any kind of cancer or disease, and only a madman would linger on their lives.Say you eventually die naturally, or by physically-necessary auto-euthanasia or requested-euthanasia, because of a disease or injury that spoils your quality-of-life. That isn’t suicide, and it isn’t a bad death. — Michael Ossipoff
I just don't understand why people have got to hate themselves to commit suicide? I don't understand this notion at allUnnecessarily ending one’s life by destroying one’s body would be the ultimate device-malfunction, self-denial, self-hate, and misery-preservation. …attempting to end misery and discontent, but instead bringing it with you. — Michael Ossipoff
If you don't have any wants, then why would there be a reason to do anything? — Michael Ossipoff
I find there's even more beauty in the idea that the randomness and probabilities of the universe settled on something that can perceive its own beauty — Christoffer
what beauty are you talking about exactly? — Rhasta1
.”Approaching nothing, sure, but never getting there” — Michael Ossipoff
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all the things that you mentioned prior to this sentence were true and made sense, but i dont understand their correlation with this statement "Approaching nothing, sure, but never getting there"
Why has there gotta be anything [in your experience] but blackness and simply ceasing to exist?
.”Say you eventually die naturally, or by physically-necessary auto-euthanasia or requested-euthanasia, because of a disease or injury that spoils your quality-of-life. That isn’t suicide, and it isn’t a bad death. —“ Michael Ossipoff
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But I'd like to argue that euthanasia, self-requested, is a form of suicide nevertheless.
.See, people who take their own lives, teenage girls [only girls?] or unemployed dudes, are suffering to an extent which is unendurable for them. They don't kill themselves because their boyfriends broke up with them or they lost their job, they suffer because the value of their lives, which was based on careers or a loving relationship, shatter and they seem unable to find any reason to why they have got to continue the futile existence.
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And in my opinion, this kinda existential crisis is far more painful and excruciating than any kind of cancer or disease
., and only a madman would linger on their lives.
.Unnecessarily ending one’s life by destroying one’s body would be the ultimate device-malfunction, self-denial, self-hate, and misery-preservation. …attempting to end misery and discontent, but instead bringing it with you.” — Michael Ossipoff”
I just don't understand why people have got to hate themselves to commit suicide? I don't understand this notion at all.
.”If you don't have any wants, then why would there be a reason to do anything?” — Michael Ossipoff
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I quite haven't figured out whether life is incapable of satisfying me in any way
., or there's something out there that will make me more at ease. And I'm searching to see if the latter could be true
So what keeps you alive, and why? Do you have any tips on how to get past nihilism? — Rhasta1
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