The iatrogenic burden will simply become too great. — Chisholm
If you convince people that their moods are merely electrochemical noise, you are also telling them what it means to be human, even if you only intend to ease their pain. — Chisholm
In this sense, the attempt to work out the biology of mental illness is different from the attempt to work out the biology of cancer or cardiovascular disease.
Not necessarily. Often times symptoms of mental illness can parallel biological symptoms to which is you remedy one, the other follows suit. For example anxiety disorders mimic biologically symptoms of having a heart attack. Although one can seem indistinguishable from the other, when you do a psychological assessment (asking them their mental health history0 along with a medical assessment you can make that distinction and take appropriate action usually involving giving anxiolytic medication. Of course extreme circumstances like having cancer of course is not treated the same way as a schizophrenic, however having cancer can contribute to the cause of severe depression.
— Chisholm
Then there is the idea that an entity as 'mental illness' exists. Hard to grasp. Like the flu? — Chisholm
The pharmaceutical industry has been pumping money in the education of doctors and psychiatrists alike, and with success. — Chisholm
Seems like this is the rant of someone who had a bad experience — Anaxagoras
For instance the idea that psychiatry knows an absolute distinction between what is real and what is not real, and uses that distinction as a basis to categorize some people as mentally sick people that need to be treated. — leo
Without acknowledging that what is deemed to be real is what the majority deems to be real, and that different cultures have different ideas about what is real. — leo
As an example, there is no direct evidence that other people feel, we aren't themselves to know that they feel, all we can say really is that we believe they feel because we feel and because they behave in a way similar to us. — leo
Yet someone claiming that he has no reason to believe other people feel anything would be quick to be labeled with some mental illness, simply because his distinction between what he considers real and not would not be the same as that of the psychiatrists. — leo
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. — J.Krishnamurti
It was called drapetomania. We found a cure for that - the abolition of slavery.behave in an atypical way which becomes maladaptive and eventually can lead into destructive behaviors. — Anaxagoras
Most psychology graduates end up in advertising. — unenlightened
Psychiatry offers pills as palliatives, when the sickness of society requires a revolution. — unenlightened
It was called drapetomania. We found a cure for that - the abolition of slavery. — unenlightened
.I'm curious to know where you got this information from — Anaxagoras
If someone is suffering from a maladaptive disorder which is causing them to ruin their job, relationships, and is affecting their way of life sometimes medication is necessary to mitigate this problem. — Anaxagoras
I bring up psychology's pseudoscience and racist past in order to encourage you and others to have a little less hubris, a little more humility, and a more careful use of language. — unenlightened
a failure to adapt is not a disorder of the organism, but a disorder of the environment. — unenlightened
Do you even know what maladaptive means? — Anaxagoras
Maladaptive daydreaming — Anaxagoras
suffering from a maladaptive disorder — Anaxagoras
behave in an atypical way which becomes maladaptive — Anaxagoras
Huh? Where did I display hubris? I'm a clinician and this is my professional job. — Anaxagoras
I'm sympathetic to the notion that mental states can be reduced, at least to the extent where we may modify them, to neurochemical states. — TheMadFool
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/04/mind-fixers-anne-harrington/583228/Harrington ends her book with a plea that psychiatry become “more modest in focus” and train its attention on the severe mental illnesses, such as schizophrenia, that are currently treated largely in prisons and homeless shelters—an enterprise that she thinks would require the field “to overcome its persistent reductionist habits and commit to an ongoing dialogue with … the social sciences and even the humanities.” This is a reasonable proposal, and it suggests avenues other than medication, such as a renewed effort to create humane and effective long-term asylum treatment. But no matter how evenhandedly she frames this laudable proposal, an industry that has refused to reckon with the full implications of its ambitions or the extent of its failures is unlikely to heed it.
Then you must be psychologically damaged, because you obviously didn't read the article linked in the OP (or subsequent posts), and that kind of thing isn't done here without incurring the disapproval of others. Take your medication, please!
Could there be other explanations for that kind of behaviour? — Galuchat
it gets to the point doesn't it? — TheMadFool
Psychiatry/Psychology does not deal with the metaphysics much when it comes to defining what is real and not real. — Anaxagoras
I didn't understand this at all. — Anaxagoras
To that I respond with the simple observation that pscyhotropic medications work and their pharmacology is understood even if it's only basic. — TheMadFool
Look at the holocaust. Some went into severe depression but many pulled out of it sanity intact. Doesn't this mean that psychiatrists many not be completely wrong in their outlook that mental illness is a personal issue? — TheMadFool
Doesn't this mean that psychiatrists may not be completely wrong in their outlook that mental illness is a personal issue? — TheMadFool
No worries.Well, you're right. I didn't read the article. My sincere apologies. — TheMadFool
If your patient sees or hears things that you don't, either you will find an explanation within the range of phenomena that you deem to be real, or you will deem the patient to have delusions that cannot be explained by anything that you deem to be real other than it being some brain disorder. — leo
The diagnostic of delusion is based on your own preconceived beliefs (based in great part on your training) about what is real and what is not. — leo
Well right there in your appeal to your own authority, amusingly, and more generally in your non engagement with any of the critical thinking on offer, and response to it instead as if it were a personal attack. — unenlightened
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