Take talking serpents and donkeys and a water walking Jesus.
If your faith tells you they are all real, and logic and reason does not tell you that your belief is completely wrong, then you are allowing your faith in the supernatural to guide you instead of logic and reason.
If you are doing that then I do not mind parting company with you are you have allowed your mind to go into intellectual and moral dissonance.
If you are that then I will give you cab fare to leave ASAP. You, as this link indicates, are a disgrace to the human race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjxZ6MrBl9E&feature=related — Gnostic Christian Bishop
If you are saying that...we are not in agreement. I do not know if there are any gods or not...and neither do you. — Frank Apisa
In the meantime, I thought I was speaking with an adult. Apparently I was incorrect. I apologize for the mistake. — Frank Apisa
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If you are saying that...we are not in agreement. I do not know if there are any gods or not...and neither do you. — Frank Apisa
I am going by the evidence. Try it.
In the meantime, I thought I was speaking with an adult. Apparently I was incorrect. I apologize for the mistake. — Frank Apisa
Accepted, you pathetic piece of garbage. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
That really triggers him. — S
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Don't mind him. He wants to draw a false equivalence and pretend that it's 50/50. If he bothers you, you should call him an atheist or challenge his alleged credentials. That really triggers him. — S
I am not her for that. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Understood, my lady. — S
feeling — Frank Apisa
Does not compute. — S
"The evidence!"
What a laugh.
Identify two pieces of unambiguous evidence pointing one way or the other on the issue. — Frank Apisa
Should have been "feelings." — Frank Apisa
I still do not understood. What are "feelings"? — S
"The evidence!"
What a laugh.
Identify two pieces of unambiguous evidence pointing one way or the other on the issue. — Frank Apisa
In terms of what's reasonable to believe, the absence of evidence in favour of the existence of God is absence of evidence in favour of reasonable grounds for belief, and that is evidence for rejection. If you're okay with abandoning reason, then go ahead and believe in God, if you can. I cannot, because my reason prevents me. The alternative is called either atheism or agnosticism, but it's the same difference in this sense, although some people get their nickers in a twist over the terminology. — S
Yeah...like the lack of evidence that there are any sentient beings on any planet circling the nearest 25 stars to Sol...
...is evidence that no sentient beings live on any of those planets.
Good grief.
What are you doing in a philosophy forum? — Frank Apisa
Take gravity, for instance: we fall down when risen above the ground. This happens because of the faith in that what has risen, must fall. — Louco
We can fly using planes and helicopters: it is the faith in scientific machines that makes them fly. — Louco
What is not absurd? That small balls hit each other and that builds reality? Or that spirit becomes flesh? — Louco
Madness is just another option. Up to you to take it. — Louco
Madness is to immerse oneself in one's imagination; it is to destroy reality, and build it anew, each breath one takes. — Louco
There are those who chose religion, and I respect their choice. — Louco
But I do find it disrespectful to confound these things. Religious folk are the stiffeners of thought; madmen are facilitators of imagination. When you say religion is madness, you make a disservice to madness. — Louco
You must not have read what I said about what the evidence was for, or you just thought that it would be entertaining to attack a straw man. Perhaps you had blind faith that I meant something completely different to what I wrote. Are you a theist, perchance? — S
And I am NOT an atheist...although I also do not "believe" there is at least one god. — Frank Apisa
And I am NOT an atheist...although I also do not "believe" there is at least one god. — Frank Apisa
In the name of baby jesus this is getting SO tiresome.
Not believing in at least one god is what atheism means! — DingoJones
You have just declared you are not an atheist by describing your atheism!
Help me Odin, Zeus, Thor, Oprah, Hubberd...fucking anyone take my hand and guide me to where something so simple can be understood! Fuck!
Is it just the internet?! Please oh holy god of holyness, tell me its just the internet and this isnt what passes for a critical thinking person in the world at large.
Phew. Done. Carry on, sorry you had to be the back breaking straw frank, but THINK about what you are saying!
In the name of baby jesus this is getting SO tiresome.
Not believing in at least one god is what atheism means! You have just declared you are not an atheist by describing your atheism!
Help me Odin, Zeus, Thor, Oprah, Hubberd...fucking anyone take my hand and guide me to where something so simple can be understood! Fuck!
Is it just the internet?! Please oh holy god of holyness, tell me its just the internet and this isnt what passes for a critical thinking person in the world at large.
Phew. Done. Carry on, sorry you had to be the back breaking straw frank, but THINK about what you are saying! — DingoJones
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In the name of baby jesus this is getting SO tiresome.
Not believing in at least one god is what atheism means! You have just declared you are not an atheist by describing your atheism!
Help me Odin, Zeus, Thor, Oprah, Hubberd...fucking anyone take my hand and guide me to where something so simple can be understood! Fuck!
Is it just the internet?! Please oh holy god of holyness, tell me its just the internet and this isnt what passes for a critical thinking person in the world at large.
Phew. Done. Carry on, sorry you had to be the back breaking straw frank, but THINK about what you are saying! — DingoJones
Forget your logic. He simply does NOT like BEING CALLED an ATHEIST. Or a THEIST. It TRIGGERS him.
AND DON'T ACCUSE HIM OF SHOUTING!!! HE'S JUST EMPHASISING!!!!!!!111!!!!!!1!!ONE!! — S
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