You didn't answer the question. Here it is again as a reminder.
Are you saying that we should assume without questioning that human reason is qualified to deliver meaningful credible statements on any subject? — Jake — Jake
Being the best does not automatically equal being qualified. — Jake
You still are not challenging your chosen authority, but are instead focusing exclusively on defending it's superiority, just as all ideologists do. A person of reason would challenge all proposed authorities in an even handed manner with no dog in the fight. — Jake
You have no proven authority which can be used to dismiss the proposed authority of religious texts, at least in regards to the largest of questions. — Jake
even the most respected commentators in the God debate typically don't even question the "exists or not" paradigm which the God debate is built upon. It's entirely possible that the question itself is so flawed (ignoring the nature of reality) that any argument for or against in response to such a question is rendered meaningless. Such a possibility at least merits investigation, but pretty much nobody ever bothers. This is the system you are basing atheism upon. — Jake
they are assuming, without proof, that logic and reason have infinite ability, are able to meaningfully analyze anything in all of reality.
It's an unwarranted leap from...
Reason is useful for very many things.
to...
Reason is useful for everything. — Jake
I’m not sure. If anyone has, and Jake can show the error in this reasoning, and also show a refusal of this person or persons to accept their error and adopt the corrected reasoning, then Jake will have made his case for ideology, in my opinion.
I have little hope that he’ll be successful. — praxis
Your comparison of reason and religious textbooks, as to which has authority to speak on a subject is nonsensical, its not a question that can be answered, only one whose incoherence can be discussed. — Isaac
You haven’t shown anyone reasoning or making the claim that reason is useful for everything. — praxis
What makes you think I haven't already done this. — Isaac
When religious people seek answers, they turn to their holy book.
When atheist people seek answers, they turn to reason. — Jake
You haven’t shown anyone reasoning or making the claim that reason is useful for everything.
— praxis
God is typically a proposal about the most fundamental nature of all reality. The proposal has the biggest scope of any proposal. — Jake
What's happening here is that all of you are atheist ideologists who perceive the threat to the glorious self-flattering personal image you have created out of atheism, and so you are engaging the usual atheist dodges. — Jake
None of you have even attempted to prove the qualifications of the methodology which your entire perspective depends upon, because you know you can't. — Jake
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