That's the best you can come up with? I must enjoy lynchings like a Klansman?

poor fella, can't read past three paragraphs

Wait, look at this story

the '60s generation in the Democratic Party, and they have not so far embraced the Republican Party as much as might be expected from their ideological transformation. It isn't clear who they will favor in 2012

Well, it's clear now.

60s generation ≠ Boomers

Well, it's clear now. — praxis

What's clear?

Not really. Leftist Baby Boomers were a minority. — Maw

Oh I agree, Maw. They were just the loudest.

Just like hmm...now.

What is silent is the moderate center.

Trump & Co. Are Crossing Big, Bright Red Lines—and They’re Getting Away With It

It’s been bad since Day 1, of course. But in recent weeks, the lawlessness has gotten far more egregious and dangerous. What force can stop it?

Read the story here.

The basic fact is, Trump is undermining and destroying the office of the Presidency in plain view, right before the world’s eyes, and nobody outside the fourth estate - constantly belittled by Trump and his cronies - is doing anything to stop it.

@praxis

You may be right. Do you know what percentage of boomers were leftist in the first half of the 70s? — frank

BTW, the Russians now have a human-chimp hybrid. And no, I'm not going to tell you how I know that. Look it up for yourself.

What's clear? — frank

That's cool. Do they have a graph like that from the 70s?

About the middle of the Boomer section, if you're curious about the distribution of that specific time in history.

For Millennials, the numerous catastrophes of the Bush administration, particularly the economic recession in 2007, the disappointment of the Obama administration, and the failure of the Democratic establishment to stop the election of Trump is seared into the collective consciousness of that age group. — Maw

Yeah, that's pretty hard to forget about.

For Millennials, the numerous catastrophes of the Bush administration, particularly the economic recession in 2007, the disappointment of the Obama administration, and the failure of the Democratic establishment to stop the election of Trump is seared into the collective consciousness of that age group. — Maw

The opposition to Bush was hardcore. The opposition to Trump is quite lame (toothless and whiney).

(Add. I think something happened during the Obama days that neutered the left.)

About the middle of the Boomer section, if you're curious about the distribution of that specific time in history. — praxis

I think that graph is showing data from 2015. We would need another graph from the 1970s to determine what happened to Baby Boomer views over time.

They named the human-chimp Roger.

The opposition to Bush was hardcore. The opposition to Trump is pretty lame (toothless and whiney). — Merkwurdichliebe

With Bush, I got more of an impression that he was dumb, but kind of naive.

With Trump, I get more of an impression that he's dumb, but in a much worse kind of way. Like he doesn't mean well. Like he knows he's doing harm, but tries to justify it. And often justify it with a bunch of lies and spin.

I guess you missed the PEW article I posted earlier.

The opposition to Bush was hardcore. The opposition to Trump is quite lame (toothless and whiney). — Merkwurdichliebe

How did opposition to Bush manifest itself, and why was it "hardcore", and what is the opposition to Trump and why is it "lame"?

Add. I think something happened during the Obama days that neutered the left. — Merkwurdichliebe

I think it’s more that Trump-Fox effectively deployed shamelessness and mendacity to undermine any prospect of reasoned opposition. After all, if an opponent recognizes no such thing as ‘fact’ then how in a democratic system can they be opposed? There’s no system of accountability that can ever work. That is why Trump poses such a mortal threat.

It's only an opinion, I've seen no poles on the historical trajectory of hardcore political opposition. It seemed like the left possessed greater spirit of doing it ourselves during the Bush era. Today, the left seems to have a strong desire to have things done for them.

Don't get me wrong, I am opposed to Trump. It's just that I'm equally opposed to his opposition.

I once had a manager who used to say ‘Don’t come to me with problems. Come to me with solutions’.

Perfect.

I saw the left scrambling for solutions during Bush.

Now it seems like the left is just screaming about its problems. Perhaps it the only way left, a last desperate attempt to oppose a system that keeps promising everything and delivering nothing.

Ah, right.

Couldn't find a graphic but it looks like Democrats were about 46% to Republican 21% in the mid 70s. That changed to 35% & 31% by the mid 80s. Maybe it took that long for the acid to wear-off.

They named the human-chimp Roger. — frank

What a coincidence, that's my middle name.

Well the Dems didn't gain seats in the 2004 House elections, and gained 31 seats in 2006. They gained 41 seats in the house in 2018, which was the highest Dem gain since 1974, so that doesn't seem to indicate that they "want things done for them". As I pointed out earlier in this thread, Bernie Sanders is far and away the leading contender for the democratic nomination, and is doing an excellent job articulating solutions to major problems that the Left is focused on, such as Medicare for All, Green New Deal in fighting climate change, and the growing inequality of wealth. Elizabeth Warren has also been second to none in detailing policy solutions to curb Capitalism's excesses. They have both been able to do largely while treating Trump himself as a peripheral issue, while not considering Mueller as some sort of savior as other liberal types have done.

But they have done little to stop the onslaught of either the war machine, or the surveillance state.

Perfect.

I saw the left scrambling for solutions during Bush.

Now it seems like the left is just screaming about its problems. Perhaps it the only way left, a last desperate attempt to oppose a system that keeps promising everything and delivering nothing. — Merkwurdichliebe

Bernie Sanders wins the next election. Problem solved. There's little else, realistically, that can be done, except to wait it out.

Too bad the Democrats sabotaged Sanders last election

Too bad the Democrats sabotaged Sanders last election. — Merkwurdichliebe

Yeah, there has been a similar situation this side of the pond, where the Parliamentary Labour Party actively sought to undermine their leader, Jeremy Corbyn.

Bunch of wankers.