White middle aged middle class cis straight able males tend to call themselves egalitarian. — Banno
I'm neither white, nor middle aged, nor do I subscribe to the cis label... — Anaxagoras
If there's an injustice which needs redressing, — S
My point is the simple observation that treating everyone equally serves only to maintain existing inequities. — Banno
People as a whole would benefit from displacing hyper masculinity and fragile masculinity. — Banno
I don't believe there's any injustice here — Terrapin Station
Why? Is there something problematic or unclear here? — Banno
To supplant humanism or egalitarianism with gender based equality called feminism? — Anaxagoras
I'm sorry excuse me for reminding people of the exordium of introducing how the pot met the kettle. Of course I think being killed for your sexual orientation, race, religion, disability, gender, or species for extremist views is morally wrong. I want to also apologize further because in addition to that, I work in a hospital and most of my time is done in the emergency department where people of homosexual orientation as well as encountering those in the prostitute profession are assaulted daily. Of course being killed is worse than a beating, but the fact remains that being assaulted for the aforementioned identities period is bad. — Anaxagoras
how does feminism affect my social experiences as a black male? — Anaxagoras
No. I was saying that its a double standard to look at Muslim cultures when it happens all the times here in the States and in other western countries. I think what you're hell bent on is seeing it in the news as proof of a daily occurrence and if that is true then that is another animal to discuss especially when it comes to what the media wants to highlight and doesn't. I'm merely looking at it from a general issue not specifics. — Anaxagoras
My point is the simple observation that treating everyone equally serves only to maintain existing inequities — Banno
You address a bigger problem by talking about a different, smaller problem. Thats not the pot and the kettle. False equivalence. — DingoJones
That's not for me to say. I don't know about you. — Banno
Isn't the argument: "the reason why we have persisting inequality is because people are not treated equally"? — VagabondSpectre
Thus is my point about feminism.. — Anaxagoras
Its not even a part of the culture in the west — DingoJones
In many Muslim countries it is supported by the culture, or a blind eye turned. — DingoJones
Sorry if that offends your sensibilities. — DingoJones
A more appropriate approach would be to to look at the fulfilment of capabilities. — Banno
That's an odd comparison - an individual to a movement. — Banno
I don't know what capabilities you have that might have been frustrated; fatherhood, caring, family role, employment... — Banno
And that's rather the point of feminism; that gender ought not frustrate one's options. — Banno
Hm. So long as the umbrella keeps the rain off, I don't see much point in the distinction. — Banno
And this is for you to judge? — Banno
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